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KB3001
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Re: Win 8
KB3001   7/29/2013 5:31:07 PM
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Certainly. To me, PC era = Wintel duopoly dominance = less competition = lower customer value. Mobile/protable = large/open eco-system of hardware and software providers = more competition = higher customer value.

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Tom Murphy   7/29/2013 3:09:14 PM
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KB:  You said: "The sooner we move away from PCs the better for all of us."

Perhaps you were just dashing off a quick thought, but I'm curious why you feel that way. 

My own sense is that PCs will be around as long as enough people find them useful to continue using them. Even with all the alternatives available today, that time does not seem as though it is rushing towards us.   Tablets and phones give us more ways to connect, but I don't see them entirely replacing PCs any time soon.

If you genuinely believe it would be "better for all of us" to move away from PCs, please explain why, and -- if you'd like -- please add an estimate of when you think that could happen: 5 years, 10, 15?

 

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Re: Win 8
mcgrathdylan   7/29/2013 2:19:30 PM
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@KB3001-

"The sooner we move away from PCs the better for all of us."

I agree ina  sense. But I don't know that we are going to completely abandon the PC. In fact I doubt it. For employees like me who are basically chained to our desks all day, the PC is still the best platform for getting things done. I've heard some analysts say that PC sales will level off and stagnate, but they aren't going to fall off the table completely. People will continue to buy PCs, as will businesses. The biggest change is that people aren't going to buy like 5 PCs for their home. They'll probably just have one and a tablet or several tablets.

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Re: Windows 8...
mcgrathdylan   7/29/2013 12:55:54 PM
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Yeah, I agree. PC vendors jacked up the price on models when they went to Win 8. And I think that did cause some people to rethink whether they really wanted to pull the trigger.

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Re: Win 8
KB3001   7/29/2013 6:52:20 AM
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Could not agree more. Thankfully, with the mobile revolution, consumers have more choice. The sooner we move away from PCs the better for all of us.

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Peter Clarke   7/29/2013 5:04:43 AM
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I also think there was an effect whereby vendors tried to take Windows 7 machines off sale and offer Windows 8 PCs at an increased price.

I think that triggered some potential customers to think EITHER i will go to a tablet  becaue it is lower cost and offers enough functionality....OR (at that price) I might as well pay a bit more and have an Apple computer.

 

 

 

 

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Peter Clarke   7/29/2013 5:04:43 AM
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I also think there was an effect whereby vendors tried to take Windows 7 machines off sale and offer Windows 8 PCs at an increased price.

I think that triggered some potential customers to think EITHER i will go to a tablet  becaue it is lower cost and offers enough functionality....OR (at that price) I might as well pay a bit more and have an Apple computer.

 

 

 

 

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Re: declining PC market is a natural phenoomena
globalpos   7/27/2013 1:39:34 PM
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Yes, exactly...for those who we are in the 40s, we find the mobility a beauty perhaps in the same proportion to have the library (Internet) in our hands...

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globalpos   7/27/2013 1:37:58 PM
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Everybody's ideas are correct.  However, the fact you have a powerful Microprocessor in your hands, mobile, everywhere seems disruptive for what we considered computing in the past.

 

We are moving from Mainframes to PC everywhere and now Processors in every person...just an evolution where always some technology is not feasible anymore.

 

Same thing happened to telegraph with the advent of phone lines, and the same is happening to phone lines against cellulars...

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Caleb Kraft   7/26/2013 3:52:32 PM
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when I was in IT a couple years ago, we were still mixed between windows 7 and XP. 

XP was released in 2001, Win7 in late 2009. In any production environment you wait a while for the bugs to get smashed, so lets say Win7 didn't even enter the picture till mid 2010. That is a huge gap. I'll bet companies that have embraced Win7 are still transitioning their documentation and practices over to the new methods. It will be a while before they are ready to do it again. maybe Win9 or Win OSX(haha). 

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