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re: Intel eDRAM attacks graphics in pre-3-D IC days
asdfasw   6/20/2013 1:11:47 AM
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How is this eDRAM?? Intel is using a separate chip for DRAM, then connecting CPU and DRAM together on package! While IBM's is true eDRAM, with the DRAM on the processor DIE itself.

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re: Intel eDRAM attacks graphics in pre-3-D IC days
resistion   6/18/2013 8:11:38 PM
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Noticed 45W power draw for Haswell L4 Gb, and this is with 22 nm ultralow leakage.

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re: Intel eDRAM attacks graphics in pre-3-D IC days
shikantaza   6/18/2013 6:56:58 PM
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Ah, the stuff you can do when you control your own fab process! Intel dropped DRAM - their original product line - over 30 years ago because they were going to get clocked by the Japanese. IBM's eDRAM really opened up single-chip architecture as eDRAM fabbed with a logic process enables an attached processor to really scream. Logic transistors are generally crap for analog, but if you own the process you can compensate. TSVs? Gotta have 'em. As signal paths, they aren't as good as on-chip contacts, but they beat a package any day. Pretty good for cooling, too. Once you have eDRAM and TSVs together, you can get more speed by implementing a honkin' wide bus with fewer buffer stages. Intel is REALLY good at watching research, then incorporating results into its new devices. They (ahem) borrowed heavily from a project I worked on to create the super-wide high-speed networks in Ivy Bridge and Haswell. The other thing to remember about Intel is that they almost certainly have stuff already working in the lab RIGHT NOW that is probably 4-5 years ahead of the commercial state of the art, and are figuring out how to manufacture stuff for the 2020 market. They are really great at maturing technologies before releasing them, allowing their investments on present-day technologies to be paid for. I can hardly wait to see what path they'll follow to bring carbon into the market. That, I gar-on-tee, will change everything. I don't know if they'll be the first, but they'll be close.

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re: Intel eDRAM attacks graphics in pre-3-D IC days
jeffreyrdiamond   6/18/2013 3:51:37 PM
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Click on the "NEXT" button at the bottom of the page - the title is just one behind. :) (EETimes, I just saved you for free.)

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re: Intel eDRAM attacks graphics in pre-3-D IC days
resistion   6/18/2013 1:19:12 AM
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and also trigate, HKMG.

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re: Intel eDRAM attacks graphics in pre-3-D IC days
resistion   6/18/2013 1:15:14 AM
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Where did the original article go? I thought it was most significant development from Intel since strained silicon.

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re: Intel eDRAM attacks graphics in pre-3-D IC days
Dr_Trevorkian   6/17/2013 10:59:48 PM
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Wrong article for the title...

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re: Intel eDRAM attacks graphics in pre-3-D IC days
eetimesloyal   6/17/2013 9:56:59 PM
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wrong article for the title subject

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re: Intel eDRAM attacks graphics in pre-3-D IC days
kjdsfkjdshfkdshfvc   6/17/2013 2:36:37 PM
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Sounds pretty sweet. http://bit.ly/IC4m9t

resistion
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re: Intel eDRAM attacks graphics in pre-3-D IC days
resistion   6/17/2013 1:37:43 PM
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Very interesting. I wonder if they are seeking immunity from increasingly likely SK DRAM domination.



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