@Frank Eory: add mechanical engineers to the list! Most city, county, state & federal engineering positions require PE. It is of course a must have for Civil/Structural engineers and architects.
But here is the kicker: most states in the US & Canada have their own certification exams (California has more than its share!) that often do not recognize PE from other states. Some offer comity based one's certification in another state but this can be a damper on professional mobility.
Dr. MP Divakar
Thanks for this question. The Professional Engineer (PE) title is not a must, but it can always help your engineer career in todayís society. The worth of the PE title depends on the company you work for and its location. If a lot of employees at your place or work are obtaining this title, it may be because the company recognizes it as a requirement for advancement or for an increase in pay. But a PE is not required for a career in engineering. Some people obtain the PE title also as a personal accomplishment.
I agree with you Test_Eng. As I observed over last seven years, P E title and technial ability has no corelation. Also, many times, in Canada, it is a way to protect a job for some other qualified person by disqualfying them for many job opportunities as they do not have PE certification. Many times, they are almost perfect candidates.
Hoeever, I observed two main advantages for P Eng. First, being a member of professional body, you get very good insurance rate for automobile and home. Second, you do learn some finer legal aspect about law and ethics. As an engineer, our intention may be good, however, many time we become part of worng doing as we do not stop some improper decision and fail to provide safety to common people.
When I read that I said to myself: "Oh JC almighty". DLaa, I've worked with P.Engs since starting my career in the micro-electonics industry here in Ontario, Canada, about 15 years ago. I don't want to offend anyone, but most of them were/are idiots who couldn't nail 2 boards together even if their lives depended upon it. These humps think that just because they have some mickey mouse certification that they don't have to learn anymore. NOT true. On the other hand, some of the most knowledgeable people that I have worked with have been technicians. Why? Because they have real, hands on experience. As I've said in a previous post, get away from the theory, and go out there and get your hands dirty; and, never stop learning!!!
The PE is typically required for major infrastructure jobs. For EEs, this is the power industry, commercial lighting, etc.
The FE (was EIT) exam can be taken with no practical experience, and should be near graduation, in my opinion. I beleive you can get a PE without the FE, but the FE is the preferred path. The PE for EEs has now been split into 3 subtopics: Computer Engineering; Electrical and Electronics; and Power.
Lack of licensure has damaged the credibility of the EE profession, in my opinion, and allows companies to hire pretty much anyone and call them an 'engineer'. We don't see the same in the medical and law professions. I've been 25 years without, but will be getting my PE next year.
See http://www.ncees.org/ for more info.
Derek, certain engineering designs like bridges, boilers, skywalks in Chicago require a licensed PE to sign off on the design certifying that design has been checked and is safe. If anything goes wrong with the design, like the collapse of the skywalk at a Chicago hotel years ago, the PE who signed it off is in the hot seat.
Consultants sometimes get their PE to boost their credibility with clients.
Interesting timing DLaa, my daughter was just asking me about PE certification the other day. I told her that a PE certification plus five or six dollars will entitle her to a latte at Starbucks.
In all seriousness, the only engineers I've ever heard of who needed PE certification were civil engineers.
I have never run across a EE related job that needed the PE, but then again most of my focus has been computer, digital and custom ASICs. The PE is most useful for civil engineering and a number of government related positions like civil, waste water, etc..
The professional engineer title is given only to engineers that have passed an exam and have demonstrated engineering experience. In it not necessary for many engineering jobs, but essential for some jobs. You should look at the type of company you want to work for and see if they typically ask for a PE certification. It is my understanding that you can take the test without the required work experience and then obtain the PE certification later when you have that work experience.
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