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New design
Phononscattering   6/30/2013 6:54:15 PM
Congrats on your new design. Let me be the first to start with the inevitable stone throwing:

-Why is the page header so big? It is already taking up half of my screen on 1900x1200. I bet it must be much worse on 1024x768. This is a lot of space with zero information, not what you expect from a "modern" design.

-Fixed width: Seems to be optimized for 1024 wide screens. This year we are going to see a lot of new IGZO 2560x1600 displays on the market. Are you sure you are going where the technology is going?

-The keyword selection is gigantic and extremely confusing.


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Your new design
Bert22306   6/30/2013 7:26:28 PM
As an example of what I'm going to point out, I entirely missed this article. The only reason I found it was the large reader comment on the new EET home page.

I'm fully aware that most of the time, unexcepted change becomes a nuisance only because people have to get used to the new layout. However there are still reasonable criteria that can and should be applied when making changes. As far as I've been able to notice, in the last two major redesigns of EE Times online, the home page has shown less and less content. I'm okay with just showing "News and Analysis" and "Opinion" on the home page, I suppose, but it's gotten to where there are only a few items showing on each column. Easy way to miss things, unless we are glued to EE Times?

One imporvement I did notice is in clicking "more." In the past, click "more" and you're thrown into some amalgamation of topics with absolutely no correlation to the column you were previously looking at. This appears to have been remedied. I hope.

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Re: Your new design
patrick.mannion   6/30/2013 11:35:09 PM
I'm already finding the site 'sticky, Bert22306. I was alerted to your comment by email here in the middle of the Yucatan Peninsula on the way to Merida! Of course, I have to respond:)

I agree with you that big changes like those made with this launch can actually be a bit of a pain for the community at first; people miss their regular sections. So, we don't take such massive overhaul's such as this lightly, but long-term it's for the better; there is so much more that be accomplished via true interactivity and conversation.

Like I allude to in the article, it's essential to be a part of the discussion, or you don't reap the benefits, or worse yet, you're simply left 'out in the cold' by those who are engaged.

The home page is always interesting: only so much can be shown, so we think it's pretty important to show your comments first, up top. That's really one of the main points of the new site: you, and the community at large, come first.

There are lots of adjustments, tweaks, updates over the next few months, so please keep the feedback coming. All sites are a 'work in progress', particularly when the community asks for what it needs. Thanks Bert22306! P.

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Re: New design
patrick.mannion   6/30/2013 11:39:11 PM
I have to agree wtih you, Phononscattering, that header is wayyyy out of proportion to the rest of the page and I'm eager to see adjusted [shrunk] too. All in good time. Lots more to work on as well, as with any new site.

Anything else strike you as odd? Feedback much appreciated.



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Re: New design
mcgrathdylan   7/1/2013 10:55:44 AM
Thanks for your comment, We are pretty happy with the design and the look and feel. We will continue to refine the site as we go. We very much appreciate the feedback.

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R3ct1f13r   7/1/2013 12:32:34 PM
I don't understand the point of the change if it's going to look worse than before! Where did you put the Design How-To articles?! 

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Re: New design -- Engineering - Working towards implementing a specification
J---   7/1/2013 1:44:10 PM
Generally the goal in engineering is to implement a specification, however vague that may be. In this case, that specification was communicated as:

"Our goal was to bring the thoughts and comments of our remarkably insightful EE Times community to the front and center of our home page and in every article."

Have you accomplished this? Certainly where comments are concerned I would say that is a resounding no. Comments are now completey "flat". The ability appears to be lost to tell what is a reply to what short of reading small details. The width of the comments are also very narrow. With dark text on a fairly dark grey background, not ideal for reading.

As has been pointed out, the fixed width is also perhaps suitable to tablets, but most EEs tend to be gadget oriented with high resolution screns.

The overall layout appears cleaner which is good and I think I will be able to find things easier.

Top banner as has been pointed out is huge!

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Another thing....
mhrackin   7/1/2013 4:51:44 PM
I do like the "cleaner, simpler" format/content of the e-mail newsletter.  I would like to add a caution, however: I may be an avid recycler, with a compost heap large enough for my 200 SF vegetable garden, but I can really do without the habit (shared by other publications as well) of sprinkling the DAILY e-mails with links to (relatively speaking) ancient content!  Most days, the links include at most one or two NEW items, with a couple more from the past week or so.  This I can understand; you don't have the resources to put out a full-fledged daily, but links to topical stuff from 18 months ago (or worse) are  a waste of electrons!  It gets worse when the link text doesn't give much info about the story it points to, so I OFTEN click on a link only to quickly realize I'd already read (and remember) this one.

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Re: Your new design
EVVJSK   7/1/2013 4:55:31 PM
Having trouble figuring out how to make a new comment, so I thought I would just reply.

Where is the "EE Life" at now? I went to Home, searched the entire page for "Life", and found 4 references to "lifecycle" but none for Life. As a technical person, I like the technical articles, but one of the things I like best is reading how others are integrating technology (jobs, new tech, tech for kids, etc...) into their lives. Hope there is still room for EE life in the new redesigned EE Times !

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Re: Welcome to the new EETimes.com!
docdivakar   7/1/2013 5:04:09 PM
It would be nice to keep the article (under which one comments!) above the text box while commenting. It is a small inconvenience but I can live with it!

Overall, the new design is an excellent improvement over the old one. As many commented above, it is a matter of time before every one is used to it and forget the old one!

MP Divakar

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