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junko.yoshida
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Is this a "marketing plot"?
junko.yoshida   7/1/2013 8:05:36 AM
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Autonomous driving seems too alien (and risky) to most consumers (I assume) and it is a hard sell.

But autonomous parking is something being pitched by the auto industry as "convenience." Debating "safety" takes time, but selling "convenience"? It's easy. There, I see their marketing plot. Am I alone thinking that way?

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kelleydferg   7/1/2013 12:56:51 PM
Convenience, especially in cities, will be a deciding factor. I am certainly intrigued by google cars and this concept as well. I wonder if it will just be commonplace in 10 years. 

I, too, live in Boston. I am nor sure the technology will address the "saved spots" via chairs and cones. Technology does not trump the locals! 

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MeasurementBlues   7/1/2013 1:40:49 PM
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>I, too, live in Boston. I am nor sure the technology will address the "saved spots" via chairs and cones. Technology does not trump the locals!

For those ouside Boston, Kelley is referring to a practice of placing cones, chairs, trash barrels, and other large items in parking spaces after people take the time to dig out their cars from snow.

In Southie, grabbing a parking space before the snow falls is the new broken beach chair

Cars Vandalized In Boston After Drivers Moved Parking Space Savers

Where I live, there's no overnight on street parking allowed ever so you either have space, rent space, or use public transportation. We don;t ahve the need to save street parking becuase it doesn't exist.

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junko.yoshida   7/1/2013 1:45:35 PM
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10 years is a stretch. But astute business owners might start making sure that their parking lots come with a smart infrastructure, for sure, I hope. 

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DavidMichael   7/1/2013 3:20:15 PM
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My expecations are that long distance freeway/motorway driving would be the first opportunity to implement autonomous driving - before automatic parking.

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junko.yoshida   7/1/2013 3:33:45 PM
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That was also my original expectation...but then, the said "convenience" angle does help sell "autonomous driving" concept, as far as its marketing is concerned. No?

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Ian-C   7/2/2013 11:27:59 AM
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Safety will always be a concern with automated cars but I don't think this is just a marketing plot. For average drivers, how often would do they have long drives versus needing to find a parking spot. It is easy to see why automated parking will have a larger market.

But self parking car is truly useful if you can just drive to your favorite restaurant and jump out and let the car find its own spot (and yes, come back to you when you want it again). The car can drive itself around and around the block to find parking and just keep circling until a spot opens up. (Ha! Don't need all parking lots to provide vacancy info to a server this way.)

Of course, you can also see that in this use case safety concern is even greater: like mixing advanced algorithms with jaywalkers.

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Peter Clarke   7/2/2013 12:56:46 PM
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@Ian-C

 

Letting self-drive cars circle round a parking lot waiting for a space to become free does not feel like a good solution.

While the parking spaces do not need to provide info to a server under this scheme you have the complex problem of visual recognition of when a space is free or occupied.......and you have lots of cars burning fuel......

And what happens when a space becomes free and two automated vehicles go for the same spot.......I suppose some sort of CDMA back off.....otherwise known as "the tank gets the parking bay."

 

In fact there are cities in Europe of mulling the idea of putting sensors in all parking bays and then providing available parking information to cars in return for receiving complete download of the CANbus information from the vehicles.


A trial along these lines was conducted in Eindhoven.

 

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Frank Eory   7/3/2013 4:39:54 PM
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Another difficulty in making this concept work well is that most of the cars in the lot will have been parked by humans, so they won't be perfectly centered within each space. Will the autonomous parking agent squeeze your car into a tight space so that the drivers on either side of you bang your car when they open their doors?

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Andrzej11   7/3/2013 10:32:09 PM
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It won't be a problem for long. Once the autonomous car arrives, the days of human driven cars at least on public roads will be short-lived. The cost in human lives and reduced road capacity would be far too great to allow otherwise.

 

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Go Car-less?
kfield   7/1/2013 9:17:56 AM
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When I first moved to Boston I found it unnerving how do many drivers don't make eye contact, when say you're both trying to inch into the same lane of traffic. So I can only imagine how much a leap of faith it would be to trust a driverless car would do the right thing. And as for the parking situation, my solution? Ditch the car!!!

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junko.yoshida   7/1/2013 9:23:33 AM
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Ha, ha, Karen. I move my dwellings often. My motivation (and goal) has always been: "ditch the car"!

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MeasurementBlues   7/1/2013 1:32:50 PM
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>When I first moved to Boston I found it unnerving how do many drivers don't make eye contact

You make eye contact, you lose.

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Can a Car Find a Parking Spot by Itself?
DrQuine   7/1/2013 11:14:24 PM
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I learned to drive in Boston and got a lot of practice parking (my record was 32 round trips to get into a small parking space). Driving in circles looking for a spot provided a lot of time to reflect upon issues associated with parking. I wonder how the computerized parking system will address 2 issues. 1/ A large box needs to be lifted out out of the passenger side and a small person needs to get out of the driver's side.  Therefore, how do I park off center in the stall. 2/ There is a sinkhole in the middle of the automatically selected parking place from the reservation system.

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It is a technical innnovative
usedcarrshub   7/2/2013 4:55:18 AM
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If technology is  improving that way it will be easier task.

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R&D to develop robotic squeegie guy for self parking cars
John_Galt   7/2/2013 8:14:24 AM
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Nearly as daunting as the development to create an automobile able to find a parking spot and park itself is the R&D behind an autonomous squeegie guy robot. Using a combination of millimeter wave radar and machine vision thousands of these marvels will patrol urban parking lots applying a mixture of rain water runoff and road grit to the windows and headlights of parked cars. Upon completion of the squeegie operation the robotic squeegie guy will use the telematics systems of advanced automobiles to ask for any loose change that may be in the cup holders.  

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Sounds Exciting to me...
Charles.Desassure   7/2/2013 8:18:00 AM
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Autonomous driving is a good concept and I believe that it will be well received once the consumers realize "what it can" and "what it cannot do."    What I have noticed about technology over the years is that all technology that is a good idea on paper, sometime can be a bad idea once it is implemented.  But autonomous driving technology sounds very exciting to me. 

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Re: Sounds Exciting to me...
Sheetal.Pandey   7/2/2013 9:17:22 AM
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If a car can find parking spot by itself, that would be just awesome! but imagine the amount of work involved. All parking lots have to keep updating the data real time. The car needs to have access to that data system. The mobile service provider, bandwidth issues. But yes its a good idea and why not. When in today's date smartphone are getting so common this will be another customer service.



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