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maxjoe
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Re: I find it funny
maxjoe   7/26/2013 10:28:33 AM
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rich.pell
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rich.pell   7/26/2013 9:15:27 AM
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"Intel and Apple didn't just pop up out of the ground. A lot of their ability to prosper is because the people of the US put a tremendous amount of resources into developing our infrastructure and research facilities."

This sounds reminiscent of the President's "You didn't build that" remark.  However, how much of this infrastructure would have been built without the hundreds of billions of dollars the "people of the US" collect annually from corporations like these (and their shareholders)?

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maxjoe   7/26/2013 8:36:45 AM
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"Intel and Apple didn't just pop up out of the ground. A lot of their ability to prosper is because the people of the US put a tremendous amount of resources into developing our infrastructure and research facilities"

Ok then keep your products only in US and dont export it to take money from rest of the world. The rest of the world will find another way. Just as China replaced Google' with Baidu Other companies can be replaced. 

 

 


There would be no need for visas then, All people will have jobs in their own country then. Wouldn't that be cool. Oh BTW let us know how many jobs you sustained after doing this.

 

 

Carolyn Mathas : Why Aren't Our STEM Graduates Hired yet? Don't the world owes them a living? Shouldnt we protect the jobs and take all the wealth from rest of the world with the products we make??

Carolyn, When you wake up, Tell Johnny and Janie to work hard, and be better, faster and more productive than the rest, to make a living.

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Re: Young engineers in a hopeless situation
rich.pell   7/26/2013 8:32:03 AM
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There will always be obvious disruptions caused by lower-cost goods or labor entering a market.  What is more difficult to identify however are the overall benefits to an economy as a whole accruing from the associated cost savings to companies and consumers. Focusing only on the former and ignoring the latter is bad economics.

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Re: Indentured servitude
Mark in LA   7/26/2013 8:30:55 AM
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I live in Los Angeles, there are signs everywhere in Spanish for immigration lawyers for the illegal aliens. If immigration lawyers were costly none of these Spanish speaking illegals could afford them. There was what 5 billable hours on your applications?

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Re: I find it funny
Mark in LA   7/26/2013 8:25:46 AM
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A country isn't a giant job fair. Intel and Apple didn't just pop up out of the ground. A lot of their ability to prosper is because the people of the US put a tremendous amount of resources into developing our infrastructure and research facilities. The management of corporations used to recognize they had a responsibility to the communities that helped them grow. Now they want to goose the stock up so they can cash their options out and who cares what happens after they are gone.

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Mark in LA   7/26/2013 8:21:20 AM
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Do you really think a company doing thousands of these uses an attorney for each application? You were likely their one of a very few cases and part of what they did with you was related to a green card and not the H-1B visa. The companies doing thousands are not going to start the green card process until they decide they really care if you stay or not.

 

Maybe some of you are old enpough to remember this but when the H-1B visas were started in the 1990s, there was an article in one of the IEEE publications. Some EE submitted an appplication for a H-1B visa with a salary that was what the minimum wage would be over a year. It was processed and accepted. When the noise became so lousd the government finally responded. They said that they couldn't do anything since the paperwork was in order.

 

Some tightening of the requirements has occurred since then. But anybody who thibnks some government cubicle sloth who's pay is related to how many of these applications gets processed is going to carefully scruituinize these applications to make sure Americans aren't being shafted is delusional.

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Young engineers in a hopeless situation
Luka_J   7/26/2013 2:03:11 AM
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I don't know how the situation in the US is, but a similar thing is happening in the EU. Local engineering graduates are having a hard time getting a job because there are always engineers  from the next less well off country who will work for a minimal worker's wage (even with working experience). Distances are small in Europe and there are no borders.

Government in my country doesn't seem to be conerned as long as the low cost workforce keeps the industry competitive. They don't seem to mind the jobless engineers on wellfare support that the government paid to educate and train (most engineering studies have no tuition fee). How does that make a profit for the country? I only see gain for "big" companies married with politics.  

Meanwhile 30% of my university class emigrated to search for better oppurtunities and repeat the cycle in a better off country.

 

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STEM and the NBA
mcgrathdylan   7/26/2013 1:50:43 AM
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I fear that this report presents yet another piece of antecdotal evidence of an ominous trend: that more and more STEM graduates are going into professional athletics or the entertainment industry. It's Dean Kamen's worst nightmare. :)

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I find it funny
maxjoe   7/26/2013 1:34:46 AM
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I find it funny when people think

1) I should be able to buy the best quality product at the cheapest price. But dont simply want to give that choice to the companies who make them!!... I want to buy the best smartphone/tablet/whatever at 0/99/?? $ . But I also want these companies to pay me a very good salary to design/develop parts of this. The companies shouldnt be given a choice on who they hire to develop these products.

2) I /my company should be able to develop/sell products to rest of the world and make every penny out of them. Be it Intel CPU/Apple Computers /MSWindows /Boeing Aircraft/Meat products/Google Search/whatever. But the rest of the world shouldn't be let to make any penny out of me. Atleast not from developing these products, which I intend to sell them.

when people finally wake up and switch on their brains, they might feel it surprising that globalisation has caught on, and the world is a free place for everyone(including corporates) to choose. And by the same token, that companies, local and foreign, are forced to compete on features and price with each other (like Apple and Samsung), some times STEM graduates will have to compete on salary and productivity even if its not very enjoyable.

 

 

 

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