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Caleb Kraft
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I can work with people that aren't perfect
Caleb Kraft   7/29/2013 12:22:30 PM
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That is a tough call. I personally feel like I can do business with people who I don't really like. I mean, I could see myself walking away from people that I absolutely HATE, but there's a lot of room for wiggle there. 

The only thing I would insist on is that everythign be well documented.  If someone asks me  to change my methods in a way that does not jive, then I have a problem. 

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Why the trolls will hire you
DCH0   7/29/2013 12:57:54 PM
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You mentioned the "trolls" lawyer did not want a report.  By hiring you for any amount, you can not be hired by anyone else on this case.  They will sometimes hire multiple experts just to ensure they cannot be hired later by whomever they are suing.

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BrianBailey   7/29/2013 1:08:47 PM
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Right @Caleb. I would have an easy time walking away from someone I didn't like or didn't enjoy working with. I have also walked away from work that didn't sound exciting.

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Re: Why the trolls will hire you
BrianBailey   7/29/2013 1:09:59 PM
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Interestingly - they couldn't prove I had ever worked on any particular case.

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Re: Why the trolls will hire you
mhrackin   7/29/2013 2:02:16 PM
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Your invoice????

Tom Murphy
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Jobs and Ethics
Tom Murphy   7/29/2013 2:09:12 PM
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Brian: First, I think you acted completely ethically in the case described. You were hired to do a job, you did it, and the customer got its answer. If they don't like that answer, they can hire someone else and "shop" for a version they like.

Second, though I don't like patent trolls, current law doesn't bar their activities and they can hire who they wish.  When they do, I think that party has an ethical responsibility to tell the truth -- something often lacking in business today.  So I though it would be unethical to tweak the facts to deliver a particular outcome.

What do other readers think of patent trolling?  Should it be legal?  If it were illegal, would that be an enforecable law?  Do you think the trolls should be required to report ALL assessments if they bring an action against a company? Or should they be free to pick and choose the ones most favorable to their case?

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BrianBailey   7/29/2013 2:32:08 PM
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But that did not state what work I did - only that I spent a certain number of hours advising them...

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Bert22306   7/29/2013 4:53:05 PM
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Was the agreement ahead of time that the work would not be documented? I wasn't in that position, so I can't say for sure. My inclination would be to insist beforehand that my report be in writing and receipt acknowledged. Perhaps the patent troll would go away and leave me alone, if I stipulated this ahead of time?

Where I work, the ethics code reads very clearly that even the appearance of impropriety should be avoided. That makes sense to me.

BTW, I was also an consultant for a company unassociated with my job, for a certain amount of time. All on the up-and-up, but it made me uncomfortable because of the potential for "conflict of interest" issues coming up. Even though, during my period with them, this never did come up, I thought it best to end that relationship. There's always the potential for something that I might not have thought would be viewed as "conflict of interest," that someone else might think it was. So if I didn't disclose this, and it came to light somehow, then there would be this appearance of impropriety. They did pay me for these consultations, but honestly, so what?

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BrianBailey   7/29/2013 5:08:04 PM
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@Bert - no there was no contract, no statement of work or anything up front. It was all very informal and only when I said that I was about to write my report did they tell me that they wanted nothing in writing. With that said, I have also been involved with the legal departments of large corporations that have also resisted having work in progress reported. I can understand this because a case I was involved in many years ago attempted to exploit that I had an incorrect knowledge of some technology during the early parts of my work in that area and had used terms in a lose manner. All of that came up in the hearings and I guess I wished I had never written some of it down - at least until I was certain of what I was saying.

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Re: I can work with people that aren't perfect
kfield   7/29/2013 5:15:24 PM
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@calebkraft You are a better person than I am because I find it difficult to work with people I don't like. That hasn't stopped me from working with them, because hey sometimes there isn't any choice, but I'm not a happy camper. If I felt someone was asking me to do something unethical or against my values, then absolutely, I would walk away. 

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