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Finished up the 1st in this series. Need to look at the rest before SANS ICS 2014 next year...

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Nice presentation Brian

Thanks Brian, very interesting session

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software engineer

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Thank you @BrianBailey for the informative session

 

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Thank you Brian.

What would be the role of human being in your future world?

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thanks Brian, good to know. Time to earn my keep. see all tomorrow.

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OK - I am going to leave the chat for today. See everyone tomorrow.

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I believe the GPS runs in two modes. One is continuous and can be used by applications and that can be turned off. However, there is a part of it - a locate on demand - that cannot be turned off (at least in this country). This is not battery draining because as soon as the location is gathered, the GPS sub-system is powered down again.

 

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@BrianBailey

Also tell about of mandatory GPS in some chapter of CSI and similar serials :-)

and say sma thing, is mandatory for prevent a we can say illegal use of phone.

 

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@Dan had the same thought, why have mandatory GPS while the user has the option of turning it off, unless someone finds a way to conveniently save power and still keep the GS on without draining the battery

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This is a good example of issues being different around the globe and has to be taken into account with features, privacy etc. Means that all products have to be "agile"

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the question about mandatory GPS in mobile phones is that most people turn off features to extend battery life. I turn off GPS, WiFi and BlueTooth. That seems to defeat the GPS locating feature unless it can be remotely enabled?

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@BrianBailey

In documental say that the Congress of USa approved a legilation to all phone were susceptible for be "traceable".

In European Union still isn`t mandatory have GPS, but is necesary register the phone to a indentified user.

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It is often bad things that force us forward. The events are tragic but perhaps the legacy is good for everyone - although we often dont think about it in that way.

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@BrianBailey

Yes I see a documental that talk about S-11 from diferent points of view, and one speak about of control of the phones (in Spain also have a sad remember of bad use of the phone in our M-11).

 

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@fjgalan - I like view in Discovery Channel. Can you expand more?

 

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Also security concerns change in different parts of the world. Has to take all of them into consideration.

 

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GPS is mandatory mainly in USA from S-11.

Almost I like view in Discovery Channel.

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I flip-flop on the security issue. There are times when I think cool - so much information sharing would be wonderful and then I think about how that informationm could be used maliciously and I get scared.

 

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Fantastic.  Can't wait for tomorrow!

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Yes, with a landline, your address is known. With a cellphne you could be anywhere. Just knowing what tower you are connected to is not enough. IT must be able to provide a location to within a certain level of accuracy.

 

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you asked to tell what we think about IoT. I see both sides of coin: comfort to consumer and as i think low security level. That's why i asked about components growing

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I had no idea GPS was mandatory on phones. For "emergencies."

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i am in first year of electrical and electronics engineering from kurukshetra university (NEW DELHI, INDIA)

 

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Good points!  Fascinating.

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Also, remember the space and time aspect. If you set sharing of RFID information in the house, then what if a visitor enters the geographic region. Do you want to turn it off?

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You may want your RFID to be shared in certain geographic regions, such as your house, but not outside of it. Could get complicated.

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Which component of IoT grows slower??? Hmmm, Not sure. I think any one of them could slow the rest.

 

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Wether or not private information is allowed to be shared from the RFid device the system trying to read it will still know it has been there.

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Thanks - very though provoking!  Enjoyed the session.

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It becomes a more difficult question to deal with when things are not "owned" by a person. Who can opt in or not opt in to information sharing.

 

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thanks Brian and Caleb, interesting intro. I'll be back tomorrow.

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Hi, Brian! Witch component of IoT grows slower?

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SaaS isd very integral long term. For example - face recxognition. You don't want to own or eve rent the software - you want to pay for the service it performs.

 

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Thanks Brian & everyone involved. Nice opening session.

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Today, RFID tags are predefined, but I have seen developments where they have storage and can receive and hold data. Will be acouple of years perhaps before they become pervasive.

 

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I think it's important to let people make their own risk/reward analysis before participating in RFID tagging programs. It will lead to less effective systems, but hopefully maintains some personal liberties. As an engineer, I'm willing to accept a less effective system to maintain some privacy and choice. Think of privacy as being a design input.

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Do you think that everione will just adopt 802.15.4, instead of going with something as a highr stack like zigbee,  do their own meshing and a gateway to access the rest of other vendors smart devices in a loose way?

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how does "software as services" play into the IoT - it would seem to be integral- or is the IoT world one of asic's and pld 's?

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I think privacy shouldn´t be an issue if there is a permission based system that the user can control.

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Is the range of RFID at the point where it could be used to tell if I am in a room so that the lights could turn on automatically?

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Brian do you see sensors becoming more and more prominent going forward? Will RFID tags include dynamic sensors?

privacy is so difficuilt to measure or decide on. Who gets the information, do you trust them, the potential good or harm from using the information. The comfort level even changes over time and the information can't be recalled.

Tough choices.

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most electroincs door lock for homes at the monent still have a keyed bolt

 

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Can RFID be used for dynamic information? Or are the chipped embedded with one set of information and that is all for the life of the RFID chip?

 

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I have seen examples of light switches that are powered just from the rocking action of the switch itself. Provides enough power to transmit the switch change and then goes dead again.

 

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Looking forward to the rest of the week!  Thanks for doing this presentation.  I work in mobile payments and security as well as privacy are paramount issues I have to deal with.  See you tomorrow.

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I think one of the issues with front door locks is the power issue. We have see hotels migrate over to electronic locks, but what happens if he battery runs down?

 

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Thanks Brian.

 

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I am not the fastest typist in the world so I am sorry if I miss any of your questions. I will go over the message log after the event has finished to see if there were questions that I missed or could have answered more fully.

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My cat can get into our house without a key, because the cat flap recognises his tag.

I have to rummage in my pockets to find the key to unlock my door.  Most cars have remote unlocking, why don't most house front doors ?

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I fix systems put together by naive system integrators after all the vendors have finished pointing at each other declaring the other guy's part is at fault. I do it all.

Hardware design and maintnance

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There is actully an Android develpment system that runs on Android!

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Quite a good definition of an embedded system !

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I work in the medical device field, surgical systems mostly. Our communication and camera devices are mostly digital, but the instruments we develop that actually perform the work in surgery are analog. We have several devices that communicate with each other, sense patient data, and are connected to our own specific network.

 

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Good Morning,

Running Late

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Control Engineering, I am involved in pocess control, process instrumentation, systems integration. Neither digitally or analog focussed.

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software (system) and networks (former DEC network consultant) - strategic tech consulting (not in the past two years)

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Software systems architect that continues to need more and more interaction with "the edge" for competitive advantages.  Finding a strong desire to understand the hardware more so as to make intelligent decisions.

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Sensors will always be "distributed".  The question is how "distributed" the CONTROL will be.

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mostly electronics and embedded firmware experience. background started with communication electronics and vacuum tubes. have become mostly embedded applications now.

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phd in analog ICDesing and power management

 

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Firmware developer working on communication equipment and instrumentation devices

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I have a software background and currently doing hardware/software co-design.

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software developers; developing embedded products, safety products

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4th year electrical engineering student from Univerisity of California, Irvine. IEEE student member woot!

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Firmware and Server Application developer. Working on communications between units.

Software developer with a strong interest in hardware.

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Systems engineering.

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Systems vendors who send orders to production orders online.

 

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What is going to replace ZigBee?

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We are also devloping csome of these insuments with dual networked interfaces.

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We are seeing more and more devices coming online on the factory floor, often with multiple interfaces including both control networks and web interfaces.

The ability to remotely connect to an instrument itself for real time values or direct troubleshooting is becoming commonplace.

Remote connections aren't just for PLCs anymore!

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it would be surprising if we could not find at least one example of how we have expirenced in both our home and work lives

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Iot worries me. Lots of things doing simple or complex tasks on their own. Near impossible to predict all the interactions.

 

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Especially when they want to add more and more sensors. Go beyond temp and humidity.

Ok. Now I am not even getting anything in IE. I updated my flash player just now. Still it isn't working in FF and chrome. And not in IE as well..

 

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not using/developing any IoT

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Collecting space temperatues etc. from remote locations.

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We are really looking towards the IOT. We are seeing more demand for data to make decisions with. Getting that back to the user requires IOT.

gigantic opportunity for the US and me as an investor in companies driving implementations in this technology - will drive US mfg. renaissance

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Working on energy mgmt eqpt. for load demand / load shed situations.

 

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I think that some things on the internet do not need to be there!

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we're not yet using iOT

 

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by udpdating flash

or turning off windows defender

or switching browser ;-)

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@dfbaechtel, can you try another browser?

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Audio is perfect for me using 15 year old laptop with 32 bit processor using Chrome.

There are no pauses or other defects.

Audio Play keeps pauseing and dropping out inappropriately on IE 9. How do I fix this? This is BAD !!

 

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Slide 4

How to expand the service and control individual items (in the industry)?

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audio is perfect for me in FF

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@Richw42, if you have a better solution, feel free to email me the info. caleb.kraft@ubm.com I don't make any garantees but I'll pass it along

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this is all on dry pavement, the nightmare begins with winter driving in Canada. ice, snow reduced visibility, ruts and other cars.

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audio is working intermittently... coming and going :(

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@ahmedsa Try Firefox or Chrome. Your Flash player may be out of date. I switched to FF and it started working

Why does EE Times put up with this POS software that causes so much trouble for so many people?

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@krh82, yes.

Have you

-hit play?

-tried reloading the page?

-tried another browser?

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@krh82 yes hit play on the player

IE is also making problem. It's not continuous. :(

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Is anyone talking yet?

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True for me as well.. Chrome and FF didn't work. But IE is working..

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Chrome and firefox didnt work for me but internet explorer did.

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Good morning Dananet0, be sure to download the slides at the link above

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yes, Chrom and FF works best

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@ahmedsa, if reloading didn't work, try another browser if possible.

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what is the time frame?

 

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I have hit the 'play' button, but it just play "Love talk radio" for 3 seconds and then nothing.. Tried refreshing.. my flash player is also updated.. :(

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@ahmedsa, it has begun.

 

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I'm on - Letchworth UK.

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it started yes, check flash player

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hit the play button Ahmedsa

 

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Has it started? I can see the audio player but nothing is playing, right?

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Hello from South Korea!

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I hear nothing...

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less than a minute...:)

 

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Hello Everyone from Stuttgart, Germany.

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Hi from Israel

 

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Hello from Binghamton, NY

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2 minutes to go time, I really like the timer!

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hello from Kenya

 

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yes its raining in here.... just perfect

 

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Hello from Albuquerque

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Hi, from Doral, Miami   Samir

 

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Hello from Michigan

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Nighttime temps in India are normally good.

 

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Hello from Irvine, California! Monday funday!

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hello everyone! its my debut .. its night in here (INDIA)..

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Hello from Leduc, Alberta

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Hello from Calgary, AB

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Hi from Panama City FL.

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Hello from sunny Boston!

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hello all from cool and rainy Edmonton, Alberta

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Good evening for all from Valladolid, Spain

Is my debut in the EETU :-)

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Yes, the weather is a kick in the butt in these parts, no doubt but not as bad as that famous general Phil Sheridan quote would have it, who, after a campaign in Texas was asked if he like the country, he is reputed to have said: "If I was to be given Texas, I'd live in hell and rent out Texas!"

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Exactly! I will take your lows as my highs!

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to be clear - I was talking about night time low's - avg high in DFW land this time of year is high 90's 

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Generally high 70's to low 80's but today a  balmy 72!  Whoo hoo!

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@wgt0823 - what do you define as not to warm. That to me would be highs in the 70s. I am guessing that was your nighttime low!

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Good morning from suburban Ft. Worth Texas - not too hot for a change.

 

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I'm in southern missouri and it is sunny and warm here as well!

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Good morning everyone. It is a sunny, warm day here in Portland, OR

 

 

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Good Morning from Tennessee

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Hello from Rockwell Automation in rainy Mayfield Hts Ohio.

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The streaming audio player will appear on this web page when the show starts at 12:00 pm  Eastern today. Note however that some companies block live audio streams. If when the show starts you don't hear any audio, try refreshing your browser.

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Be sure to click 'Today's Slide Deck' under Special Educational Materials above right to download the PowerPoint for today's session.

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how about using google hangout?

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