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xwindowsjunkie
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Re: Kinet--SpyCam
xwindowsjunkie   8/27/2013 3:35:07 PM
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My laptop has a piece of electrical tap permanently stuck over my built-in spycam.

With as much CPU/GPU power in the XBox1 seems to have, little parasitic programs might be able to operate almost invisibily. That somewhat scares me, post-Snowden-NSA.

There isn't any obvious malware monitoring going on my daughter's X360.  I would hope that the next gen would have something like that.   I would assume that users can buy things off the Internet with credit cards, thereby providing a "monetization incentive" for all the accomplished malware writers in eastern Europe and Asia (and other places as well).

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Garcia-Lasheras   8/27/2013 3:08:36 PM
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@Caleb: "that's a good point about the kinect. However, I do know people that still put tape over their laptop cameras!"

A few days ago, I bought an original webcam camera for a Samsung smart TV as a present for my father in law. The device includes a mechanical slider in order to manually cover the camera lens.

I struggled my brain for some minutes before realizing that Samsung has included the mechanism in order to overcome customer resistance to "having a spy cam" in the living room!!

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Re: How will it compete
Caleb Kraft   8/27/2013 2:47:15 PM
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or out the window at their neighbors.

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Re: How will it compete
Caleb Kraft   8/27/2013 2:44:48 PM
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yeah, they did seem a bit scattered with this release. to actually be more expensive than the new playstation didn't help at all either. I'm really curious to see how things change as these consoles come into peoples homes. We had previously already established a kind of higherarchy based on price and games where the wii was purchased by fans of nintendo, then people generally chose between xbox and ps3. That decision was often driven based on price. Who knows how it will break down now.

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Re: How will it compete
Caleb Kraft   8/27/2013 2:37:09 PM
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Gamers already know what it is. They almost don't have to market to them anymore, they can let the game companies do that. Now they have to win over mom and dad, and maybe grandma too. If they can do that, they'll OWN the living room.

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Re: Kinet--SpyCam
Caleb Kraft   8/27/2013 2:35:13 PM
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that's a good point about the kinect. However, I do know people that still put tape over their laptop cameras!

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Re: 363mm^2 is single chip or multiple chips
weit   8/27/2013 2:22:54 PM
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There were rumors about XB1 production yield issues, which I think is directly related to the die size of the SoC. With the huge amount of area consumed by eDRAM, Microsoft traded off GPU compute unit count to keep die size in check.

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363mm^2 is single chip or multiple chips
wilber_xbox   8/27/2013 2:03:26 PM
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363mm^2 is a single chip? It so then i wonder what kind of yield is 28nm TSMC technology giving? Or M'soft paying per chip regardless of the yield?

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Kinet--SpyCam
xwindowsjunkie   8/27/2013 1:56:12 PM
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Not being interested in games the XBox One seems to be massive overkill, but I'm likely wrong about that.

What is interesting is the Kinet and the processing that makes it work. Will the Xbox One operate without a Kinet attached? Concerned about security? Just disconnect the sensor.

The potential of the system as a spying device is about on par with a laptop with an integrated webcam. Hacking into a Xbox1 probably is a little tougher than doing the same on a laptop since it's likely that Microsoft has probably "hardened" the security of XNA to prevent intrusion into their cash-flow. There aren't as many programmers/hackers familiar with XNA as with other dotNet languages/systems.

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Re: How will it compete
loot87   8/27/2013 11:45:37 AM
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Unless the user faces their Kinect to the wall.

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