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rick merritt
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How will it compete
rick merritt   8/26/2013 7:17:39 PM
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What do you see here about how XBox One will compete with the next Sony and Nintendo consoles?

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Re: How will it compete
Garcia-Lasheras   8/26/2013 7:39:18 PM
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After looking the slides, beyond being a very powerful game station I believe that the XBox One has the opportunity of winning the competition by acting as a communication an media hub / set top box.

It not only has tons of multimedia processing horsepower, but includes the most advanced video capture device. Sum that to the acquisition of Skype by Microsoft and you have a media center in which the gaming capabilities are only a little part of the big picture!! 

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Re: How will it compete
rick merritt   8/26/2013 8:00:20 PM
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FYI, over lunch one EE joked that since XBox One is always connected to the Web and the Kinect is always on its a wonderful (or horrible) surveillance device!

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Re: How will it compete
elctrnx_lyf   8/27/2013 3:12:08 AM
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So much going on about the surveillance, no wonder EEs are talking about it.

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Re: How will it compete
weit   8/27/2013 3:30:19 AM
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I think the XB1 is lacking a clear focus from a management standpoint. It tries to do too many things, but arguably none is particulalry attractive compared to the competition.

It plays games, yes. But comments from 3rd party developers suggest that there's a 40% deficit compared to the Sony's PS4 in terms of GPU power. It streams videos, runs Skype, records gaming sessions, and integrates cable TV in its interface. All of these features are behind a $60 per year subscription paywall, on top of the $500 upfront asking price. Speaking of which, PS4's lower price of $400 sure makes Microsoft's offering look a lot less attractive.  

It was suggested that the inclusion of the Kinect sensor contributed to XB1's higher price. Microsoft needs to offer a compelling reason (ideally in the form of a killer app, something similar to the wildly successful Wii Sports) for people to be willing to shell out that extra $100 over the competition. 

I think the Xbox One is a great piece of engineering. Unforturnately, it was mismanaged from pricing all the way to PR (which MS later admits). Hopefully things will be better after the management shakeup.

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Re: How will it compete
loot87   8/27/2013 11:45:37 AM
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Unless the user faces their Kinect to the wall.

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Kinet--SpyCam
xwindowsjunkie   8/27/2013 1:56:12 PM
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Not being interested in games the XBox One seems to be massive overkill, but I'm likely wrong about that.

What is interesting is the Kinet and the processing that makes it work. Will the Xbox One operate without a Kinet attached? Concerned about security? Just disconnect the sensor.

The potential of the system as a spying device is about on par with a laptop with an integrated webcam. Hacking into a Xbox1 probably is a little tougher than doing the same on a laptop since it's likely that Microsoft has probably "hardened" the security of XNA to prevent intrusion into their cash-flow. There aren't as many programmers/hackers familiar with XNA as with other dotNet languages/systems.

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363mm^2 is single chip or multiple chips
wilber_xbox   8/27/2013 2:03:26 PM
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363mm^2 is a single chip? It so then i wonder what kind of yield is 28nm TSMC technology giving? Or M'soft paying per chip regardless of the yield?

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weit   8/27/2013 2:22:54 PM
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There were rumors about XB1 production yield issues, which I think is directly related to the die size of the SoC. With the huge amount of area consumed by eDRAM, Microsoft traded off GPU compute unit count to keep die size in check.

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Re: Kinet--SpyCam
Caleb Kraft   8/27/2013 2:35:13 PM
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that's a good point about the kinect. However, I do know people that still put tape over their laptop cameras!

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