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Peter Clarke
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Re: Sometimes it works
Peter Clarke   8/30/2013 5:33:37 AM
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I am also a great fan of the 6V6 rather than the 6L6 (valves/tubes).

But to defend Simon I think he was addressing product names for consumer electronics equipment rather than component identification for business-to-business sales.

It is perhaps more legitimate to treat electronic engineers as part of logistics machine when they may legitimately have to deal with many variants that, realistically, can only be differentiated by a numbering system.

 

 

Peter Clarke
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Re: Sometimes it works
Peter Clarke   8/30/2013 5:31:50 AM
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I am also a great fan of the 6V6 rather than the 6L6 (valves/tubes).

But to defend Simon I think he was addressing product names for consumer electronics equipment rather than component identification for business-to-business sales.

It is perhaps more legitimate to treat electronic engineers as part of logistics machine when they may legitimately have to deal with many variants that, realistically, can only be differentiated by a numbering system.

 

 

David Ashton
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Re: Sometimes it works
David Ashton   8/30/2013 5:14:29 AM
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You beat me to it Peter.  Anyone of my vintage knows these numbers, along with things like 2N3055 and, if you're English parts oriented, BC108.  And the 8080 would have been a better choice than 80286.  I stil have my 8080 databooks, and could probably tell you the numbers of most parts in that line and what they do.

I am sure there are folks around who can tell you which Microchip uC has 7K of flash, 4 ADC inputs and 2 I2C interfaces without looking them up, but I can't.  Life was simpler in the old days.... :-)

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Re: Sometimes it works
SimonBarker   8/30/2013 5:05:53 AM
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Wikipedia (via Google) has come to my rescue - again, not a consumer product....

Peter Clarke
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Re: Sometimes it works
Peter Clarke   8/30/2013 5:00:27 AM
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Simon

 

80286...and the fact that you have no idea speaks to your youth

SimonBarker
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Re: Sometimes is works
SimonBarker   8/30/2013 4:38:18 AM
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Good points - I suppose in reality there will always be a disconnect between the different departments in a company an when the dust settles it is obvious that no one was thinking about the customer and sales reps.

Making a name up is the way to go - we made up a word for our company simplt combining two words, radiator + fan = radfan - not very imaginative but it works

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Re: Sometimes is works
AZskibum   8/30/2013 4:20:03 AM
I'm not sure complex part numbers are even fine for components, at least as far as marketing and branding are concerned. Due to trademark issues, I think the best product names fall under the category of new words/names that never existed before, even if they have to start with an X or otherwise violate the usual rules of the English language.

In the engineering community, we sometimes think about this because the internal project name is often something very cool that one would assume the marketing guys might latch onto, but the end product usually ends up with some obscure alpha-numeric name that is difficult to remember, even by the designers who have lived & breathed the product for many months.

But I also think it is clever how Intel uses geographic location names for its internal product code names, and even succeeds to some degree in branding their products with those names -- Sandy Bridge, Bay Trail, etc. There are lots of cool names to choose from among the world's many locations.

Many famous components in our industry's history achieved brand recognition in spite of, not because of, their names -- 555, 714, 6502, 68000, 8086 and many, many more. But was it really in the best interests of sales and brand recognition to choose such names -- names that look like they were chosen by engineers, or maybe supply chain personnel?

 

SimonBarker
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Re: Sometimes is works
SimonBarker   8/30/2013 3:27:26 AM
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Everyone? Let me see if I'm right:

 

911: Emergency line, tragic date, Porsche

80266: no idea

Z80: A Nissan Car or Spectrum (which I had to Google anyway)?

6502: no idea

555: Nobile Kite Surfing Kite or as in the 555 timer? Hardly a consumer device and complex part numbers are fine for components

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Sometimes is works
Kevin Neilson   8/29/2013 3:55:50 PM
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Sometimes it works.  Everyone knows what products these numbers represent:  the 911, 80286, Z80, 6502, and the 555.

wilber_xbox
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Re: product brand and product number
wilber_xbox   8/29/2013 1:59:15 PM
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I really wonder about the different cofigurations of smartphone (for simplicity sake) can a company provide and on top of that we can rate them. If we love rating so much then why in the first place do we need so many configurations. We can just rate the preferences and based on that build products. I just do not get it.

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