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jgruszynski2
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Re: LTspice and Mac OSX!
jgruszynski2   12/9/2013 6:21:03 PM
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As another Mac-using engineer I have to strongly agree.  The UI is Epic Fail at the moment - extremely non-Mac-like.  A better choice would have been:

* Have an inspector window to allow any element's values to be inspected by simply clicking on them - make the UI far less modal (modal == pure evil in UI design)

* Make the UI grammar selection-based as in SELECTION-VERB (a la photoshop, etc.) rather than the Windows LTSpice method which is basically VERB-OBJECT and very modal

* Use a floating palette for stuff that simply MUST be modal (e.g. drawing wires or lines) so you can visual feedback about what mode you are in - the LTSpice UI has always been Epic Fail about this

MeasurementBlues
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Re: LTspice and Mac OSX!
MeasurementBlues   11/12/2013 2:21:18 PM
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@Matt,

Please contact me at martin.rowe@ubm.com. I'd like to learn more about how you use your Mac for engineering work.

Matt Tuley
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Re: LTspice and Mac OSX!
Matt Tuley   11/12/2013 1:47:45 PM
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I emailed ltspice@linear.com to inquire about that--basically sent them the content of my comment here. I received an almost immediate response from LTspice developer Mike Engelhardt. Here, quoted with his permission, is his reply:

On the PC version, I added many features over the course of 15 years but never changed the software in the interest of not confusing established users.  In hindsight, this might have been a mistake.

On the Mac Version, I removed the parts of the GUI which I never use. I removed the toolbar from the Mac version because all it did on the Windows version is teach people the wrong way to use the software. Use the right click menus instead so you don't have to move your mouse so much.

So it looks like we Mac users will need to adapt. I see his point, and I'm willing to give it a try, but it will take some getting used to. I still feel a bit stuck in the mental model that basically casts the old toolbar as me seeing my tools all spread out before me within easy reach, versus knowing they're in the toolbox but I need to dig one out each time I need to use it.

 

Matt Tuley
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Re: LTspice and Mac OSX!
Matt Tuley   11/12/2013 1:36:40 PM
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It was actually your article, Martin, that brought the existence of Mac LTspice to my attention. So thanks for that!

MeasurementBlues
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Re: LTspice and Mac OSX!
MeasurementBlues   11/8/2013 5:07:01 PM
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I just wrote about that.

LTspice Goes OS X: Somebody Uses a Mac

Kenneth Wyatt
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Re: LTspice and Mac OSX!
Kenneth Wyatt   11/8/2013 10:42:43 AM
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Yeah, you and me both, buddy! I hope Linear Tech continues to improve the UI to the point where the PC version is at right now.

Matt Tuley
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Re: LTspice and Mac OSX!
Matt Tuley   11/8/2013 10:29:56 AM
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As a long time Mac user, I was excited to see a Mac-native version of LTspice released. Having used it, I'll be sticking with running the Windows version via Parallels. Hiding the majority of the functionality in a context menu requiring a right-click to access everything is a pain. I greatly prefer the Windows version's menus and toolbars where everything is plainly visible.

Kenneth Wyatt
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Re: LTspice and Mac OSX!
Kenneth Wyatt   11/7/2013 9:05:40 AM
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LTspice for the Mac OSX was available in late September and formally announced this last week. The layout is different than for the PC, which confused me at first. The menus to create schematics will appear when you right-click.

Robotics Developer
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Re: LT Spice Tutorial
Robotics Developer   9/23/2013 4:55:11 PM
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Having used LTspice in a previous employment I can say that it was quick to learn and easy to use.  The LTspice tutorial is a great idea and would be a good reference for anyone in a company that needs to get up to speed quickly.  If you are a casual user or hobbyest then feell free to load up LTspice and learn by playing.  On line helps are available and can get you over some of the hurdles should you encounter any.  Thanks for the nice article!

Sanjib.A
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Re: Knowing more on how to get "true" FFT
Sanjib.A   9/9/2013 11:15:47 PM
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Thanks Ken!

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