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Peter Clarke
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Re: Not Linux, Obamacare or Windows 8
Peter Clarke   9/10/2013 6:15:12 AM
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And I would argue that the corporate upgrade cycle got longer because large chunks of the world just went through a recession.

Most of the windows PCs I have used have been bought for me by my employers and the one on which i am writing is now three years old and still doing ok.

But I bought my iPad using my own money, when I wanted to indulge myself.

If companies were flusher they would replace quicker, but eventually they will have to, which will produce a PC replacement spike that some companies are going to benefit from.

When will that spike arrive, 2014?

And which will those companies be?

Lenovo, Microsoft, Intel

or

Apple and Intel or ARM


or

Some other combination.

 

garydpdx
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Re: Rubbernecking on the PC highway
garydpdx   9/10/2013 10:25:07 AM
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A good point ... what EDA tools have been ported to Windows 8?


I had asked before in an older article, around May, to the sound of crickets chirping.  I heard nothing about Windows 8 ports at DAC 50 in Austin, TX.


I believe that the ports will actually happen but people aren't jumping on it like Windows 7 (but pent up progress could also be blamed on Windows Vista in that case).

garydpdx
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Re: Not Linux, Obamacare or Windows 8
garydpdx   9/10/2013 10:28:51 AM
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I have been seeing five year replacement cycles in some cases, with upgrades in RAM and HD (larger and/or faster) to bridge the gap, it's not just three years lengthening to four.  Also, during the Great Recession, computer upgrades often came from picking up newer used machines from dearly departed colleagues. :(

chanj0
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Aligned to decline of PC sales
chanj0   9/10/2013 12:26:31 PM
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The sales of PC LCD panel seems to agree with the decline of PC sales. Although the decline rate of LCD panel seems to be a lot higher than I anticipate, the decline itself doesn't really come into surprise to me. What interesting to me is why these PC makers not finding other way out for these panels. Clearly, a 10" tablet is too small for any real computer tasks - word processing, spreadsheet calculation, etc. Can 15" fit into a tablet for portability and practicality? There are a couple vendors testing the market. Who knows where it is going to do? Question is coming down to what else these 15", 17" panel be used.

On the other hands, what about the sales of bigger LCD panel - 24" & 26" which are used for desktop screen?

Peter Clarke
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Re: Aligned to decline of PC sales
Peter Clarke   9/10/2013 1:12:29 PM
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Well I suspect that the go slow on orders of 15-inch, 17-inch LCD panels will last until the PC market picks up.

Either the manufacturers will have to take a rest from making them or if they have already made them they will have to stock pile them.

I agree that somebody enterprising might be able to take advantage of low prices to turn them to some other purpose but with modern LCDs highly tailiored to the end equipment it is hard to see what.

DMcCunney
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Re: Not Linux, Obamacare or Windows 8
DMcCunney   9/10/2013 1:40:32 PM
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And I would argue that the corporate upgrade cycle got longer because large chunks of the world just went through a recession.

That, and I think upgrade cycles were lengthening anyway.  Current hardware is fast and powerful enough that corporations may ask "Do we need to upgrade?" and the answer may be "No." because existing gear still does the job.

In addition, the cost of the new machines is only one component of the total costs of upgrading.  A corporate upgrade is a complex exercise requiring lots of planning, and extra hours from those doing it.  I went through the exercise a while back when my then employer was acquired, and the new owners decided to fund a needed upgrade.  Of course, money reared its head: the upgrade was in stages over three years to reduce the outlay at any single point, and some of what was done was accounted for as "one time integration expenses", because shareholders expected integration costs in a merger and aquisition, and didn't view them with the same disfavor as a higher expense in a budget line item.

My associates and I burned a fair bit of midnight oil doing the swaps and helping users deal with the changes.  Fortunately. most folks accessed files on shared servers and didn't have a lot of local data to be preserved.  Everyone getting shiny new flat screen monitors as part of the process went a long way toward reconciling users to the changes.

 

 

Charles.Desassure
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Are you guys serious...
Charles.Desassure   9/11/2013 2:03:51 AM
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Are you guys serious?  Are you saying that Obmacare and Microsoft are the two reasons why the PC Display Orders Plummet in July?  I think the management team at the eight leading PC brands -- Acer, Asus, Dell, HP, Lenovo, Samsung, Sony, and Toshiba -- all have better common sense than that.  O yea, please leave Microsoft alone.  The management team at Microsoft are making excellent decisions right now.  I love it!

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