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rick merritt
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Re: Exercise apps
rick merritt   9/16/2013 8:06:32 PM
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and what do you do with that data, Frank? Do you outrun family members like Karen? Should the two of you be doing virtual races?

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Re: Exercise apps
Frank Eory   9/16/2013 6:36:14 PM
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There are times when it would be convenient to have the FitBit pedometer functions simply as an iPhone app. But I think the app will supplement rather than replace the demand for the FitBit hardware devices. There are exercise situations in which wearing the FitBit device might be fine, but carrying your smartphone would be problematic. It will be nice to have both options.

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Re: Exercise apps
rick merritt   9/16/2013 5:38:45 PM
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@Frank: Some say the M7 and its API will turn Fitbit into an iPhone app. What do you think?

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Re: Exercise apps
rick merritt   9/16/2013 5:37:55 PM
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@Karen: Remind me not to go jogging with you. ;-)

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Re: Really? 64 bits will get me nothing?
rick merritt   9/16/2013 5:09:24 PM
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@wholder: Indeed I did not consider 64-bits impact in security functions.

What sort of user benefits do you foresee here?

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Really? 64 bits will get me nothing?
wholder   9/16/2013 4:15:24 PM
Gee, I'm amazed to hear that, over the years, each new generation of CPU (8, 16, 32, etc.) has only brought me increased address space, and nothing more.  I could have sworn that my 16 bit CPU could add 16 bit numbers a lot faster than my 8 bit one could.  But, perhaps I was mistaken.  Now, I suppose now one really cares about adding 64 bit numbers faster but, wait, doesn't fast encryption have something to do with math opeations on large numbers?  But, I'm sure that the author of this article knows all about how fundamental security mechanism, such as secure hash algorithms won't be able to take advantage of 64 bit math and how this code will work just well on older, 32 bit CPUs.  I'm so glad I have a a technical magazine like EE Times to keep me fully informed by such knowlegable authors.

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Re: Exercise apps
Frank Eory   9/16/2013 3:36:47 PM
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It's nice to meet another FitBit fan! I am really looking forward to see what kinds of new fitness apps are enabled by the 5s and other next generation smartphones.

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Re: The future will take us...
Doug_S   9/16/2013 3:35:03 PM
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I've long thought that smartphones could effectively replace regular PCs for a good portion of the population.  They clearly already have the power to do so, the CPUs in them may be weak compared to Intel's current PC CPUs, but those provide far far more power than the average person needs - I'm talking about those the people who use their PCs only for email, web browsing, online shopping, Facebook, writing term papers, managing photos, etc.  This would obviously be inappropriate for the the engineers reading EETimes, so please don't tell me that such a solution wouldn't meet your needs.  Even if it only works for 50% of current PC buyers that's a massive market for Apple to tap, and a huge potential problem for Microsoft.

 

The reason a smartphone doesn't replace a PC already for these people is that the interface sucks.  The screen is way too small (even a phablet screen) and the keyboard is terrible for trying to do lots of typing.  So provide a way to connect your phone to a big monitor, which has USB ports on it to connect a standard keyboard and mouse.  Thunderbolt or HDBaseT 2.0 would work great for this, and either could be done with a Lightning interface cable that plugs into a Thunderbolt monitor or HDBaseT 2.0 supporting TV set in a year or two.  When the iPhone detects this connection, it starts an 'app' that is basically the full OS X GUI, including all the userland libraries that OS X apps expect.

 

I think this is coming, but you really want 64 bits before you do it, simply because you need more memory in a phone to run a desktop GUI and desktop apps, and you don't want to bother short term support for a 32 bit ARM API for those desktop apps.  This would be really simple for Apple to do.  OS X already supports fat binaries, it could start producing fat x86/ARM64 binaries.  iOS is based on OS X, and could be modified fairly easily to support almost all OS X binaries that were recompiled as a fat binary.

 

 

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Exercise apps
kfield   9/16/2013 2:52:58 PM
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Hey Rick: i didn't think that I would ever be interested in some kind of fitness app until my husband and I both bought FitBits. We are an extremely competitive family and the powerful thing about FitBit is that it shares your daily activity numbers with friends in your network. So if I slack off during the week, my friends and relatives will taunt me. Sounds sort of sick, but it is actually motivating me to work out more (and come in first!)

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The future will take us...
chanj0   9/16/2013 2:45:55 PM
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Back then when App store was opened, developers can register to become an iPhone apps developers and submit apps to sell, who would anticipate what the apps store has turned out and Apple has become.

64-bit mobile devices are seemingly overengineered. Ease of memory addressing may improve I/O throughput; yet, it would not be significant enough. What made Apple to decide to go for 64 bits on iPhone 5S. I guess Apple has been innovating and be first of almost everything. Now, Apple becomes the first company to launch a mobile device with 64 bits processor. Big deal! IMO, 64 bits mobile device will not beneift regular users. However, if the device is in the hand of curious engineers, I am sure there will be a lot of hacking going. Maybe, we will see a iPhone 5S being used as a regular computer with Linux being the OS. Maybe, there is a powerful parallel computer build with 1k iPhone 5S.

Sometimes, platform makers just need to open the door and the future will take us to where we are supposed to be.

 

PS: To Apple, what's the benefit? Maybe, Apple is checking out 64bits ARM to prepare for future Mac.

 

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