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Peter Clarke
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Re: Going for the leading edge is the most profitable pathway?
Peter Clarke   9/19/2013 7:28:34 AM
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@Junko

yeah-but, no-but, yeah-but

The implication of the IC Insights analysis is that ....in aggregate for the industry working the trailing edge/specialist edge. or shall we call it More-than-Moore, as worked by Tower Semiconductor, X-Fab, Lfoundry, Silterra and others, will NOT work, because it is a declining market?

Obviously it can work for thoise gaining market shares while others drop out of the market.

But why is it declining in aggregate?

Well it may be that TSMC is dropping ASPs for More-than-Moore wafers as it grabs market share.

And there may be some protection if a specialist has a process that is in demand and not offered anywhere else. But again the implication is that eventually TSMC or Globalfoundries will offer it while expanding their business at the leading-edge.

There are, of course, long time constants on a market that rarely reaches dynamic equilibrium.

 

junko.yoshida
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Going for the leading edge is the most profitable pathway?
junko.yoshida   9/19/2013 6:43:28 AM
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I don't see any surprises in the story's headline: Pure-Play Foundries Need the Leading Edge.

The question I would ask, though, is whether that's the most profitable path for pure-play foundries. When you look at profitabilities of foundries, I think we may come to a different conclusion with specialty foundries like Tower-Jazz are doing quite well.

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AnySilicon   9/19/2013 4:45:39 AM
The money is in the VDSM market, all the big foundries are therefore running in this direction. Thanks for sharing Peter!

rick merritt
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Beyond 28nm
rick merritt   9/18/2013 12:22:14 PM
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28nm was a barn burner with Qualcomm's recenues actually limited by how many wafers it could get and how fast.

I'm not sure past performance will preduct future results. Will a potentially more expensive 16nm FinFET process be as big a seller if it is more complex and costly with double patterning?



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