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LarryM99
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Highly impractical, but cool looking
LarryM99   9/24/2013 1:42:15 PM
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This reminded me of the old Hertz commercials, with the guy flying into the car to land in the driver's seat. It looks very cool, especially for here in sunny SoCal, but I don't see it being used back East in winter. The battery capacity is obviously way too low, given that it will drive that engine for less than an hour at 25% of peak. Did they say anything about range?

rick merritt
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Re: Highly impractical, but cool looking
rick merritt   9/24/2013 4:36:14 PM
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I understand reducing weight, but I kinda thought a door was important--even in San Jose!

Caleb Kraft
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concept of what?
Caleb Kraft   9/24/2013 4:43:25 PM
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usually a concept car only serves to showcase a concept, not necessarily a practical application for production. I'm just not really sure what concept they're showing off here.

krisi
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no doors?
krisi   9/24/2013 5:17:29 PM
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I am with @Celeb on this...what is the concept here? no doors? I think this is called Jeep

junko.yoshida
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Re: no doors?
junko.yoshida   9/24/2013 5:48:23 PM
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You guys are all spot on. What's the point of a car wtihout a door?

That said, as the author Cuck Murray described,

Clearly, the Fourjoy was designed to deliver some buzz to Daimler's Smart division, and it's doing that.


I think it's actually interesting if anything comes out of this experiment -- especially in terms of "the first vehicle jointly developed in a partnership with French automaker Renault SA," as Cuck wrote.

 

p_g
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Re: no doors?
p_g   9/25/2013 8:48:50 AM
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With world of car with door as default, it certainly look odd to have car without door, but why not? We have no roof car so why not no door. One can compare it to sophisticated sexy looking golf cart :)

 

I guess point is industry for automotive is on revolution, so many new ideas will be on table, some may not appeal at first but who know in future no door may become popular concept.

junko.yoshida
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Re: no doors?
junko.yoshida   9/25/2013 8:55:39 AM
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p_g, you wrote:

One can compare it to sophisticated sexy looking golf cart :)


That's a good one! I love that...although I am not sure if Daimler would like that description!

p_g
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Re: no doors?
p_g   9/25/2013 4:03:05 PM
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I am sure my comment will hurt Daimler, but surely person willing to take challenge will be appreciating any comments,

junko.yoshida
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Re: no doors?
junko.yoshida   9/26/2013 11:22:01 AM
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@p_g. that's a good comeback. Well put!

Caleb Kraft
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Re: no doors?
Caleb Kraft   9/25/2013 9:23:00 AM
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unfortunately the doors are required for side impact crash ratings.  The missing doors isn't groundbreaking either, the MINI Crossman did it in 2009.

 

I love concept cars. I really do, and this one is pretty neat. I just think it is odd that the lack of doors is what people are touting as revolutionary.

p_g
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p_g   9/25/2013 4:07:58 PM
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@Caleb Kraft, I am not proposing that removing doors is any revolutionary idea by itself. But it may help in bringing weight of car down sidnificant enough to make battery engine work well and make it efficient and viable for short commute. In that snese it may become revolutionary. I am not looking at idea in isolation but the context in which its being applied and what value it brings in.

 

Apple was not first one to bring tablet (if I remember correctly Lenovo had it before) , but it was revolutionary since they bring in compatble software which improve the usability.

 

Also agree side impact crash rating  will be down to ground, but bikes also dont have door, how about their crash ratings? And people do drive them and like them.

Caleb Kraft
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Re: no doors?
Caleb Kraft   9/25/2013 4:12:17 PM
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bikes do have crash ratings of a sort. However the government of the US categorizes vehicles differently. In order to be sold in the states, you have to meet the minimums of your class. Being 4 wheels and average car height, it will need at least a removable door (like jeep) to be sold legally. either that or a frame piece. 

 

What people want doesn't mean you can get it. The VW bus (bay window design) was available new in brazil until very recently but you can't import them due to safety concerns in frontal impacts. 

p_g
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p_g   9/25/2013 5:29:55 PM
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@celeb Kraft, Now I got your point from legal point of view and its very valid point.

Caleb Kraft
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Re: no doors?
Caleb Kraft   9/25/2013 5:31:21 PM
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Yeah, totally a legal issue, but one they can theoretically get around by having removable doors. 

I drive an old VW bus but it was "grandfathered" in. 

William Miller
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Re: no doors?
William Miller   10/1/2013 6:12:27 AM
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I first thought the doors were just transparent made of strong glass. EU Residents Travel Insurance



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