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Caleb Kraft
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tough call
Caleb Kraft   10/21/2013 3:07:52 PM
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It really is a tough situation. Do you want ultimate privacy? Move to a cave in the middle of nowhere. is there some middle ground that we can find? Maybe.

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Go back to snail mail, quaint.
dougwithau   10/21/2013 4:19:40 PM
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From a slashdot article.

http://www.nytimes.com/2013/07/04/us/monitoring-of-snail-mail.html?hp&_r=1&pagewanted=all&

TL:DR The post office photographs all envelopes, uses character recognition and keeps the who mailed to whom graph. Pretty much the equivalent of the who have I called graph.

There is no safety in numbers, or anyplace else.

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Interesting comment once said to a friend in St Petersburg
MS243   10/21/2013 4:34:16 PM
Interesting comment from a friend who visited St Petersburg -- he happended to go on a tour that included the KGB station house  there -- The tour guide indicated that you could see Siberia via the back door. 

The reality is that we could obliterate hundreds of thousands of people before any electronics other than a few telegraphs existed -- The US civil war cost more lives than any conflict the US has been in before, or since.  It seems that rather than just agreeing to disagree about the issues and trying to benevolently govern, the country, and leadership is becoming quite divided over many issues.

Electronic surveilence is a two edged sword like any technology  -- It can just as easily be used to harm the inocent, as to stop a tragedy.   I myself find that most of my communications I use to work with is under constant attack from a variety of sources.  If one does work related to exports to one country -- several others will use any means to stop the work.   If one does work for a US company then foriegn companies try and stop the work and so on. 

 





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Re: Go back to snail mail, quaint.
Caleb Kraft   10/21/2013 5:00:17 PM
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I guess this makes sense, but it just seems like such an unreliable mess! I'd love to se how well this has done at actually graphing things.

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Re: Go back to snail mail, quaint.
rick merritt   10/21/2013 11:08:22 PM
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@Doug: I missed the post office role. Fascinating stuff. Thx for sharing it.

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Privacy and technology
junko.yoshida   10/21/2013 11:16:00 PM
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Great piece, Tom. Somebody had to write this, and I am glad you penned it.

We do need a better legal (and political) framework to ensure citizens' privacy. But instead, with little engagement in political and legislative processes,  it almost feels like the entire tech industry has already olled over. It is a shame.

Is it too late to take any effective actions? I am not sure.



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