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Re: Intel is not winner here
rick merritt   11/4/2013 12:28:50 PM
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@SMP: I heard the same thing from Dell.

Many servers just need to keep filled a 1-10G Ethernet pipe on one side and a storage interface on the other, something that doesn't necessaril;y require a big Xeon.

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Re: Intel is not winner here
SMP   11/2/2013 11:51:42 AM
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Most servers are i/o limited, not CPU limited unlike desktop PCs, so ARM server chips would be fine for the majority of servers and server farms.

Also note that most servers handle many requests per second, and so having multiple cores or multiple servers in a server farm fed by a round robin router works very well, again allowing use of more lower powered ARM servers, or lower powered ARM cores. Indeed far more so than with desktop computers. 

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Re: Intel is not winner here
TarraTarra!   11/2/2013 2:37:00 AM
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Completely Agree. This is the reason the OEMs need the ARM players to be alive to keep Intel honest. Competion in the server space? How refreshing!

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Re: walk in the park?
TarraTarra!   11/2/2013 2:33:34 AM
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Dell timelines should be an year behind HP and other OEMs. Dell is hardly a trend-setter in the server space. It has been over 2 years since HP announced moonshot and has servers shipping today. Dell has nothing to show yet.

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Re: Exciting times indeed...
TarraTarra!   11/2/2013 2:30:17 AM
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Really? What benchmark has Intel provided? Their one slide from IDF showed obscure relative performance/watt comparison with no real numbers.

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Re: Intel is not winner here
Gondalf   11/1/2013 7:19:02 PM
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uummm strange post. It seems like all servers load can be accomodate with large clusters of tiny socks. Unfortunately, most of real world workloads are very sensitive to monothread performance. So yes, in this upcoming 10/15 percent of server world intel will lose a bit asp, still the bulk of server sold will remain an high ipc cpus territory.

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Gondalf   11/1/2013 7:19:01 PM
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uummm strange post. It seems like all servers load can be accomodate with large clusters of tiny socks. Unfortunately, most of real world workloads are very sensitive to monothread performance. So yes, in this upcoming 10/15 percent o server world intel will lose a bit, still the bulk of server sold will remain an high ipc cpus territory.

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Re: Exciting times indeed...
rick merritt   11/1/2013 5:18:08 PM
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@KB: Unfortunately I am getting few meaningful numbers from any system or chip vendors at this point.

Applied's CEO said XGene is dissipating 45W Max and has a 50% lower TCO than a Xeon E5, but there's a mystery of math in how they lump together all capital and operating costs to get that figure.

And no one is providing any benchmarks except Intel so far.

 

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Re: Intel is not winner here
rick merritt   11/1/2013 5:15:48 PM
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@Luting: Excellent points.

I am not sure OEMs are really leveraging this opportunity to get back into more value-added system design. My observation is Dell and HP seem to be letting the chip makers do a fair amount of the board design and just creating passive backplane chassis for them to ride in. Hopefully, this won't be their missed opportunity.

As for Intel, it's actually the only company shipping microserver SoCs now, admittedly at lower ASPs than it is used to.

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Intel is not winner here
luting   11/1/2013 4:30:22 PM
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To me, it is always long shot for ARM to get into Intel dominant server business. But I don't think Intel will be winner either. Under pressue, Intel will be forced to come out low cost server chips to fend off Competition from ARM. This will hurt Intel Business overall with falling ASP. At end, winners are likely system Companies such as HP and Dell since they have better price negotiation power againt Intel, or end users to have access on low cost servers. Although it is hard for ARM to get into general purpose server market, I still believe ARM could be used by large service Companies such as Google, Facebook, Microsoft to build purpose build servers to address their own specific need.

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