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goafrit
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Thought they had that already
goafrit   11/6/2013 10:05:01 AM
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This is surprising - I would have thought Intel had that group for years now. It seems they are coming late to a new technology paradigm again just as they missed the mobile internet revolution. IoT is going to be the next wave and Intel just doing this now is a surprise.

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Re: Thought they had that already
rick merritt   11/6/2013 10:19:40 AM
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Intel has long had an embedded group under different names and to some extent IoT is just the new fashionable name for embedded.

However I also think this marks a recognition by Intel and its new CEO there are as many important sockets at the low end of the market as at the high end where it has traditionally focused.

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Re: Thought they had that already
krisi   11/6/2013 10:28:12 AM
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I don't think this is too late...there are very few commercial IoT market developments yet...lots of PR and EE Times discussions ;-)...IoT business is so dis-organized without any clear vision, framework, standards or solid business plans that it will take years to sort this out...Intel initiative is valueable and there will be many more attempts by others to create business liances...Kris

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Caleb Kraft   11/6/2013 10:39:48 AM
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By no means is this too late. Obviously they've already been studying this stuff. By acknowledging publicly that they are devoted to helping build this new (old) idea, it just looks good for them and their investors.

 

investors:"Why aren't you doing IoT"

intel: "we are, we just never called it that"

investors: "uh.. we want you to do IoT"

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Re: Thought they had that already
chanj0   11/6/2013 11:51:54 AM
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Abolutely, I'm sure intel has been doing research for years. The announcement is to let the industry know they are ready and possibly, are looking for ioT startups. A company of Intel size can't just do announcement w/o actually finishing their homework. ;)


There are a couple fundemental technologies for ioT, for example low power MCU, wireless such as Zigbee and Bluetooth LE, Cloud-based, etc. How ready Intel is in these categories? The recent investment to various startups seemingly gets Intel closer ioT readiness. How far Intel is away from first product launch? More importantly, what's the first product?

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Sheetal.Pandey   11/6/2013 1:37:37 PM
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so does that mean every big tech giant can have their own Internet of Things group.?

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Re: Thought they had that already
rick merritt   11/6/2013 11:06:30 PM
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@Sheetal: I'm afraid so ;-(

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Re: Thought they had that already
LarryM99   11/7/2013 1:45:50 PM
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Maybe what we need is a set of communication protocols to facilitate data transfer between IoT standards groups. If we could use it to identify and resolve overlap between standards it could pay for itself in no time at all!

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Re: Thought they had that already
goafrit   11/27/2013 9:19:30 AM
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>>o does that mean every big tech giant can have their own Internet of Things group.?

That is how the system begins. Then over time, they will merge and have a working group.

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Re: Thought they had that already
Bert22306   11/7/2013 6:30:57 PM
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"More importantly, what's the first product?"

Our water meter? That's been remotely sensed for a very long time already (although I won't swear that it uses Internet Protocol). The actual water meter is wired to a small outside box. Not sure whether our electric power meter is set up the same way, or whether it still has to be read manually.

Our car is full of "IoT" type of sensing. We get a report card by e-mail every week or every month (my wife gets those).

Never mind what I do at work. IoT is "more of the same."

 

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shehryar0   11/7/2013 4:18:03 AM
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Intel has also been working on the ISF ( Intelligent System Framework ) with the aim to standardize IoT framework

http://www.intel.com/content/www/us/en/embedded/intelligent-systems-framework-video.html 

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junko.yoshida   11/6/2013 11:09:10 PM
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Rick, how big is this group at Intel? And how does that compare with other "BIG" chip companies' IoT group?

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Re: Thought they had that already
goafrit   11/27/2013 9:09:33 AM
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Good point - this IoT has been there. We have had sensors with IPs for a while. It is just that a new crafted name has enterred th lexicon and we just like it. I am not sure if Intel is really that good in these small evolving business sectors. They seem to always wish the world stays at PC. How can they make money when I can buy a decent tablet at $100? Not sure they are built for that kind of price model.

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Re: Thought they had that already
krisi   11/6/2013 10:47:17 AM
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I agree @Caleb...many people have been looking and probably even doing something in that space...before the term was invented!...now every marketing department needs to IoT label


the same thing happened with cloud computing...there was areall business doing exactky the same thing years before someone came with the label that sounded innovative...and there are probably hundreds of other examples like this

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To Intel
katieanne   11/6/2013 11:48:33 AM
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Intel had always something for all the users round the globe. I hope that this is cool plan and kind of smooth to try with especially as everybody seems to be online. - Aldo Disorbo

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Really?
luting   11/7/2013 3:30:33 PM
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If Intel could not suceed at $20 mobile app processor. it is hard to believe Intel will suceed in $2 IoT processor.

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krisi   11/7/2013 5:58:05 PM
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Good point...but at the end of teh day you will need trillions of these devices for IoT...so silicon manufacturer might win due to the scale of the problem...$2 times trillion is a sufficiently large number ;-)

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IoT or not to IoT
rstraten213   11/8/2013 4:18:06 PM
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IMHO It seems to be 80% marketing. Everyone is jumping on the IoT bandwagon. The arduino-intel combination is a great stunt. It will draw attention. IoT is the new buzzword. But for how many years are we connecting things?

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goafrit   11/27/2013 9:11:27 AM
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>>  But for how many years are we connecting things?

As much as you can imagine the invention of ICs by Jack Kliby and then Microsoft by Bill Gates. This is not new - the only new thing is that we have a really good name after it. Since the mass usage of the Internet, we have seen IPs inside most things. Yet, I agree that the scale has really exploded recently.



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