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_hm
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Live person to talk to?
_hm   11/7/2013 7:23:57 PM
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Do they have live person to tlak to? And what is shipping charges?

Another good PCB manufacturere is APC Inc, - Alberta Printed Circuit, Calagary. Very prompt and reliable.

 

 

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Re: Live person to talk to?
laen   11/7/2013 11:46:19 PM
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Yep! There's a couple of us that answer questions via email.

Shipping is free, worldwide.

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Caleb Kraft   11/8/2013 9:53:58 AM
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I love that picture of the entire panel with sunlight coming through it. I want to cover my walls in those!

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OSHPARK
GarySXT   11/8/2013 2:49:42 PM
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I have used OSHPARK for several designs that I don't need quick turn around on.  I have been very happy with the quality and price, especially for smaller boards. One project required a ½" X 4" board. I got 3 pieces for a total cost of only $10, including shipping. 

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_hm   11/8/2013 5:49:50 PM
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@Gary: Thanks for very positive and helpful feedback. I should try out them too. Do they take Eagle and Altium output?

 

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GarySXT   11/11/2013 8:57:23 AM
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@_hm

 

OSHPark takes Eagle files.  I use Eagle (paid version - some home projects turn into products for my ham radio/electronics side business).

I always create and send Gerber files though.  I have had trouble with mixed up layers, missing silk screen items and similar problems when I tried sending native CAD files to circuit board houses in the past.  So, I never sent Eagle files to OSHPark, but I know some people who have and apparently had no trouble with it.

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EDA tools
Susan Rambo   11/9/2013 3:54:13 PM
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I'm interested in knowing what EDA tools engineers favor for their home projects. Here's what OSH Park accepts.

_hm
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_hm   11/9/2013 7:52:17 PM
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@Susan: For home or amateur or even new professional work I would like to strongly suggest Eagle for schematic entry and PCB design. It is very low cost - $100 / $400 / $1000 versions. Very good EDA tool.

For simulation, free LTSpice should be very effective.

For test and measurement instruments, Newark has good noname oscilloscopes - around $300 and others instruments as required. For DMM Fluke is the best, but Extech and other are also good start.

Hobby electronics is lots of fun. As you earn more money, you can reinvest them in Agilent/Tektronics/Fluke and other software tools.

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Susan Rambo   11/9/2013 7:59:17 PM
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@_hm: Thanks for the great suggestions! I'd like to try them out sometime. 

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alex_m1   11/11/2013 6:43:01 PM
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@susan i like circuits.io . less work.

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re:altium submission
marshallhto   11/11/2013 2:57:25 PM
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I've run some 4layer altium designs through laen's service. The default gerber output works



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