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hi Jacob, I am not able to hear the audio, how can i download the audio and hear ?? I am using google chrome and my adobe player is the latest one.

great series, very well presented, looking forward to the next lessons

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Jacob, thank you for another excellent presentation.  I'll keep the slides for a guide.

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jacob, thanks for a very informative introduction - i am forward to the hands on stuff

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Hello from SW Michigan - 

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What vendor has a good ecosystem support?

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@Colheckman, thanks for the heads up, not sure why you got the bounce message, email on file is correct.  I sent another email to feedback with my contact info and an alternate email address (just in case).  Thansk again.

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My STM32F429I-Discovery Kit was sent to the wrong address.

 It should be shipped to

 Carlos Alicea

Ultravolt, Inc

1800 Ocean Ave

Ronkonkoma, NY 11779

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eellis2 Your email on file is bouncing back, please send your contact info to feedback@eetimes.com

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Haven't received an email notification yet, so I sent a message to feedback@eetimes.com.  Hope to hear something soon so I know if I need to try to track a board down.  Thanks!

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Have yet to receive an e-mail notification. However, Digikey now has 850 in stock?

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sorry i missed the live chat i was 

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thanks for the presentation very infromative 

 

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Nope, no notification here. Though it looks like the profile issue is fixed.. sorta. I'm now registered for everything in semester 1, though I don't recall doing that on my own.

 

I dropped a note off to feedback@eetimes.com as mentioned below. 

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Dear Jacob,

 

     Thanks again for the presentation.

 

~ Cliff

 

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Please disregard my previous post. I found the email you sent me. Thank you. Sometimes my computer makes the wrong decisions for me.

I have not recieved an email about the board. I logged in at the beginning of each session. I hope I qualified. If I didn't I would like to know one way or the other.

 

Thank you

I also haven't received an email either way about the board.  I just sent an email to feedback@eetimes.com

 

Gents,

If you need to buy dev. kits, Arrow shows that they have 41 at $28.71 and Digikey now has 871 in stock as well for $33.60.

You can't see them if you follow the link provided for the related ST.com website, but if you go to Digikey .com dirrectly and search for STM32F429I-DISCO, then you can see the dev boards stock available.

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Thank you for your help colhecman.  I received the corrected email confirming that I qualified for the dev board.

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Guys.... RS Australia seems to have stock of these boards....I just ordered one.   They will be a bit under $40US but I don't know if they will ship internationally.   I'm not sure if the  link below will work, if not use

http://australia.rs-online.com/web/

And search on STM32F429I-DiSCO      Here's the full link to the page:

http://australia.rs-online.com/web/p/processor-microcontroller-development-kits/7892815/?searchTerm=STM32F429I-DiSCO&relevancy-data=636F3D3226696E3D4931384E4B6E6F776E41734D504E266C753D656E266D6D3D6D61746368616C6C7061727469616C26706D3D5E5B5C772D5C2E2F252C5D2B2426706F3D313326736E3D592673743D4D414E5F504152545F4E554D424552267573743D53544D333246343239492D446953434F2677633D424F544826

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I have received the correction email with the dev. kit qualification confirmation as well.

I have also checked my profile and now the proper course name and attendance is confirmed and graded.

Thank you colheckman and the team for promptly taking care of everything.

I am excited about the upcoming hands-on workshop and looking forward for the next course sessions.

Also many thanks to ST, EE for the generous opportunity and to Jacob for doing a great job lecturing this course.

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Rookie  please email feedback@eetimes.com and we'll get it sorted out
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I have not recieved any notifications yet!!?

I had posted a greeting as soon as I had signed on at 12:01:09 PM on Dec2,2013 and 12:00:51 PM on Dec 3,2013.

I hope that I was elegible to recieve the board for the next sesions.

Thank You.

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I received the correction, too! Thanks! Looking forward to the hands-on session.

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I also received a correction email notifying me that I qualified to receive the kit and apologizing for the earlier incorrect notification.  Thanks!  Looking forward to next week's classes and to going through all the getting started material.

 

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Just received my corrected confirmation. I did qualify for the board.

I hope these system problems are resolved before the next class.

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I did NOT receive the decline notification, but I did receive the confirmation that I qualified at 4:45 PM EST Dec 4th.

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JeffC44,  please send an email to feedback@eetimes.com and we'll confirm for you.

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How are you determining the first 1000?  By login to the website for the class before the podcast?, The first 1000 commenters in the forum?.  The first 1000 connected to the Podcast at the time it started at 12:00 pm eastern time?  Which I did in both for both of the first two sessions.  So is it reasonable for me to assume I qualify based on the above information?

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IF YOU FEEL YOU SHOULD HAVE RECIEVED A NOTIFICATION AFTER ATTENDING, PLEASE EMAIL FEEDBACK@EETIMES.COM

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WILLIAM.GREATHOUSE,  PLEASE SEND A QUICK NOTE TO feedback@eetimes.com

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I attended both days and I haven't received any notification :(

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What if we received NO notification. I registered early, attended both sessions. I had some difficulties with connectivity both days, so I replayed both sessions in full via archive in addition to participation.

Maybe they're just trying to get us all to buy boards :-(

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CORRECTIONS WILL BE MADE AUTOMATICALLY.

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Do we need to do anything if we think we received the wrong notification? Or will the correction be made automatically?

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URGENT NOTE: IF YOU BELIEVE THAT YOU QUALIFIED AND RECEIVED THE WRONG NOTIFICATION, A CORRECTION WILL BE SENT OUT ASAP.  APOLLOGIES FOR THE CONFUSION.

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Didn't qualify either. Not quite sure how? I signed up for the course less than 10 minutes after I received the original email about it. Then I logged in at close to 8am EST both days of the courses and refreshed ever 30 minutes or so. Figured I'd be in the first 100. So disappointed. Can't find one in stock anywhere. Might have to just listen to the next 3 sessions.

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Arrow website appears to have a handful in stock, but est. ship date of 12/9 and disclaimer "Limited Supply - Order to be Reviewed"

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I was also notified I didn't get one either.  I was surprised to see that more than 1,000 people from North America attended both sessions as I did.

 

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I just got the notification so you should get an email shortly. Didn't qualify...

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JeffC44  Yes, you will be notified with instructions to order.

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Will we be notified if we did not qualify so we can start looking for one to order?

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Here's hoping I'll get one. :)

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Notifications will be going out today.  We are investigating the profile issue.  thank you.

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When will the emails go out? Else, how can we determine if we are not in the lucky 1000?

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Don't know if this has been resolved but double ditto, my profile has the exact same entry:(

I have listened to both lectures (had to listen to the archive a live did not work) and hope to qualify for the kit and continue the course

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Also, these don't appear to  be in stock anywhere. I was going to hedge my bet and buy some.. but Digikey, Farnell/Element 14, Arrow, and others don't seem to have any in stock at the moment. 

If you're in EUROPE, RS-Components has some in stock. But they won't ship to the US. I found some similar knock-off kits on eBay and Aliexpress, but nothing quite matching the STM32F429I-DiSCO partlist/layout. 

Is there an alternate board that will work for the majority of the topics comming next week? It looks like STM32F429I-DISCO is the only board with an LCD that I could find, how integral is that to the upcoming topics?

Since the topic is bound to be archived, those of us unlucky enough not to win a board can always wait until some become available, and come  back to the class (provided it's archived and made available, like the first two are) and pick it up from there, though we'll lose the benifit of the Q&A. 

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Ditto on the profile thing. I just got an email reminder for today's course.. but I already downloaded the deck and listened to the aduio.. but my profile says:

BRINGING INTELLIGENCE INTO INDUSTRIAL SYSTEMS 
Overall progress:

 

And has no progress info on it. Would apreciate it if we could get an update on what's going on there. And hopefully it won't impact our eligibility for the free kit! :) 

Thanks to EET, ST, and Jacob for hosting, sponsoring, and talking about the subject!

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I would like to buy the discovery kit for the hands-on session, but it is NOT available in Digikey, Arrow, Avnet. Where can I find it?

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Very good tips on this subject. Thank You for sharing!

For anyone reviewing this material, Click on the "Session Calendar of each day Dec 11, Dec 12.." that click will take you to the agenda and special advice information for that session such the slides or advance documetation or reading links. Thanks!!!  I got it how this online system works.

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http://downloads.deusm.com/eetimes/EETU/Getting-Started-V5.pdf  maybe this one (but is not the slides) only the getting ready

 

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@ST_STUARD: Do me  abig favor, can ypou psot the exact link  where the advance PDF for session 3,4,and 5 are found. Sorry I can find that section for CLASSROOM. A LINK will help to anyone

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thanks @ST_STUARD ...

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I  WILL ADD: SINCE THIRD SESSION IS IN A WEEK, CAN YOU POST AHAED, SLIDE, LINKS, ANYTHING WE READ AHEAD AND GET REDAY AND PREPARED, PERHAPS EXTEND THE SESSION TO 1.5HR (HANDS ON LAB SOMETIMES REQUIRES TIME (STOP AND WAIT, SO EVERYBODY IS IN SINK).

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@WILFREDOH the slides for the December 11th session are available in the classroom for that session. See also 'Setting up the STM32F429 Discovery Board for Sessions 3 to 5 hands-on workshops (PDF)' also available in the classrom for the December 11th session which gives all of the instructions for downloading and installing the software and setting up hardware to be ready for this session 

Thanks looking forward to Session 3.

POSTING USER AT 3:57 PST (California).  PLEASE POST SLIDE AND PPT ONE DAY BEFORE NEXT SESSION  DECEMBER 11, SO WE REVIEW THEM FIRST

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Jacob, I really enjoyed this second session and I am looking forward for next one!.  Thanks a lot

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Hi colheckman, thank you for looking into the profile issue of not reflecting the course attendance.

I hope this won't affect my eligibility for getting the free development board. My notification was posted more than 3 hours ago so I hope that counts. I just looked into my profile and nothing was changed. I am sure you guys are fair about this, and I don't mean to keep bugging you but I saw some other members later accusing the same issue as mine. I am hoping that this gets fixed.

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The class is going very well so far. Good job!

 

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I hope I get one of those eval boards

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Looking forward to the continuation

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Jacob you did a great job

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I have attended the first two sessions of this microprocessor course also.  My profile doesn't reflect this.  It shows "Course Progress - BRINGING INTELLIGENCE INTO INDUSTRIAL SYSTEMS", a course for which I haven't even registered...  Can you please help in correcting the issue?  Thanks.

folks we are looking into the profile issue.

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This is great and useful information. Thanks.

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same here with profile showing "BRINGING INTELLIGENCE INTO INDUSTRIAL SYSTEMS".

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@Flash Shannon - as Ori says you need the 30-day limited time Evaluation version.

All please read 'Setting up the STM32F429 Discovery Board for Sessions 3 to 5 hands-on workshops (PDF) in the Classroom for Session 3.

It includes complete instructions for downloading and installing the software you will need in Session 3

FYI, I have same issue as leonet99. Profile does not reflect that I attended both "fundamentals of microcontrollers" lectures. Profile shows me registered for BRINGING INTELLIGENCE INTO INDUSTRIAL SYSTEMS" with empty progress. 

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leonet99-Let me look into this for you

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I couldn't find any record of my class attendance or any grades for any of the 2 lectures I have viewed anywhere in my profile. I had to view the archived classes becuse my corporate blocks the player.

Anyway, the only thing showing in my "EETU progress" is "BRINGING INTELLIGENCE INTO INDUSTRIAL SYSTEMS" with empty progress. I did not registered for that course; I registered for "Fundamentals of Microcontrollers (MCUs): Hands-On Workshop" which I do see it confirmed in the Curriculum Calendar.

Can someone please help clarify this?

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thank you for a good info/ideas

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Will we be notified in advance if we qualified to get the Discovery Board?

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Shannon,

No, you have to download the 30 days limited time Evaluation S/W.

The Hands  On projects are bigger than 32k bytes and will not

compiled with the Kickstart version.

FWIW: You can use ST's MicroXplorer program in Linux if you have java installed. I had to copy the contents of the installer to a directory after installing with wine (or in windows) (db help MicroXplorer.jar plugins templates), then I renamed the db/ip folder to uppercase IP. Then you launch the program with "java -jar /opt/MicroXplorer/MicroXplorer.jar"

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I downloaded  IAR for ARM, v. 6.70, 32K Kickstart Edition . Is that suitable for the labwork?

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I just caught half of it @ noon- recording is a GOOD thing!

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Thanks for the seminar!

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Jocob, many thanks for an informative presentation.  Hope to qualify for a board.

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I had to listen to the archive both days, but still enjoyed the lectures. Hopefully I qualify to get the board and continue with the class.

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Hello Jacob, Do you know if ST provides IBIS models for their microcontroller I/O (for signal integrity simulation)?

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Had to listen to the archive.  Thanks again for the info Jacob.

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The M4 should have sufficient resources to run a light weight OS. I wouldn't consider anything with lots of drivers. Android or light weight Linux should work. I'd consider Free RTOS for non-dynamically loaded applications.

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You're welcome, #JuanCa0

 

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Hmmm. I read in the ST forum uCLinux was ported to it.

Oracle has ported a Java VM for the STM32F4DISCOVERY boards!

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thanks eetimesar!!

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Java & C# are similar and can cause code bloat.

Well structured C/C+ can gain the Object Orentation without the execution engine requirements.

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what class of free framework we can get from STM32?

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Thanks too! see you!

 

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I think we can work with eclipse ide too!

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thnks ST_Alec_Bath!

 

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uhmm, expensive, not at all!! all it's oriented to use with free libraries and i think it's more organized, if you plan to use a big project!,whatever!, in this case, I'm trying to learn the STM32,

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David think in time to market!!

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Thanks for your time Jacob! see you again!

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hey guys, it's possible to use java language to develop with this type of platform for STM32?

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this is gold link! thanks so much!

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thank again theslawek!!

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Jacob, do you have a book or something printed?, just for beginners! using SMT32, because I program all my life with microchip in C!, and it's difficult to change platform in the same level MCU

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you can download the audio, using realplayer!! it's free!

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There is also a Getting Started Guide here:

 

http://docs.oracle.com/javame/config/cldc/rel/8/stmicro/getstart_stmicro.pdf

 

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Java virtual machine is fairly big for embedded work. C+ is OK (typically 10-20% over C depending on enabled features and compilers).

 

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Really interesting... one of the better sessions -- with or without the board.

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uhmm, expensive, not at all!! all it's oriented to use with free libraries and i think it's more organized, if you plan to use a big project!,whatever!, in this case, I'm trying to learn the STM32,

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Oracle has ported a Java VM for the STM32F4DISCOVERY boards!

See http://www.oracle.com/technetwork/java/embedded/overview/javame/java-embedded-system-requirements-359229.html

 

 

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Thanks Jacob and EETimes...

see you next week

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For people in Europe I can recommend rs-online.com as a reliable source of the STM32 boards. They delivered to Czech rep. in two days for a shipping fee of 9 USD. /not connected to them, just a happy customer../ And BTW the board itself is very cool. It boots up with six colourful icons on the LCD (video player-image browser-clock-game-performance benchmark-system info). Reminds one of the older mobile phones. You can control it by touching the display. Nice. Really looking forward to the hands-on part of webinars.

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I'll stick with C+ -- that's torture enough.

Thinking of moving to Mikroe Pascal... Much simpler. ;-)

http://www.mikroe.com/mikropascal/arm/

Each to their own...

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I think it is expensive; special proc and dev tools

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David think in time to market!!

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Java: Ugly, very ugly:

http://www.st.com/web/en/catalog/tools/FM147/CL1794/SC961/SS1533/PF252537?s_searchtype=keyword

Just search for Java on their site -- you will find it.

 

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Thanks for your time Jacob! see you again!

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hey guys, it's possible to use java language to develop with this type of platform for STM32?

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Where to find the ARM cross compilers -- well some of them...

https://launchpad.net/gcc-arm-embedded

cheers!

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@scott93 -- Very helpful

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Is the "Arm Connected Community" the same thing as the forums on the ST website?

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this is gold link! thanks so much!

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@theslawek. St does indeed need to improve on the tools and support side. I think this may be the first step. FIngers crossed.

I have some of their kits here. If I can get better help forum and tool support several of my projects will be possible. With other companies processors -- not so likely.

Here's hoping.

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LINUX MCU DEVELOPMENT CONFIGURATION LINKS

http://www.indigresso.com/wiki/doku.php?id=opentag:tools:gnu_arm_eclipse
http://www.sectiongo.com/main/setup-eclipse-debug-environment-for-stm32f4-discovery-board/
https://sites.google.com/site/stm32discovery/open-source-development-with-the-stm32-discovery/setting-up-eclipse-for-stm32-discovery-development
http://gnuarmeclipse.livius.net/wiki/Create_and_build_a_new_project
http://hertaville.com/2013/09/02/stm32f0discovery-part-1-linux/

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I can post the links, got them here...

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See the chat session from yesterday where I provided links to many guides on how to setup eclipse+gcc gdb for development

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@Steve61 -- just send IAR a request for quote. They are very professional and you will not feel hassled.

They will follow up anyway. ;-) This I know...

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+ ! Linux Compatible Tools!

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@sbender130 Yes you will need the 30-day eval version

You're welcome.

@ST. Please consider making linux compatible tools. TI is way ahead with this with Code Composer Studio (CCS) which is cross platform.

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So the 30 day limited version is needed to play with the hardware and examples ?

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Does anyone know the approximate price range of IAR software?  IAR site wants official request.

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Ok. Was trying out True Studio but I think I can migrate to Eclipse/GCC for Arm now

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scott93: - No, 32K is insufficient. You will need the full code size. STemWin is a big package.

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No, you should use the unlimited version.

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Will a limited (32KB)IDE code be enough for the Graphics library STemWin?

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thank again theslawek!!

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@Paraschiv.Gina Qualified attendees have participated in yesterdays session AND today's session (live or via the archive by 5p ET today) and have US or Canada addresses. IF you qualify, you'll receive an email tomorrow and the board in a few days. If you don't qualify, you can purchase the board from DK

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@theslawek thanks for posting that.

We'll do some exercises using MicroXplorer is Session 3

The 30-day limit version is required to build the Graphics Lib stuff.

So yes, you will need to setup for 30-day limit. My mistake.

But you cam later move to EmBlocks toolkit (Windows) which has full code size support, and works with the full suite of STM32-F4 examples.  

IAR is great for initially getting your feet wet.

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If you haven't tried MicroXplorer, I highly recommend it!

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+1 for MicroXplorer

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The code sized version of EWARM will not work for the hands-on sessions

MicroXplorerMCU graphical configuration tool

http://www.st.com/web/en/catalog/tools/PF251717

Useful tool to get a mapping of all the pins you need for your peripherals.

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what do you mean by `first 1000 qualified attendees` ?

If you know ahead of time you may need another STM32 you can lay out your board so that it will always be 100% pin compatible

@SK2 You need the 30-day eval version of EWARM 6.7

See 'Setting up the STM32F429 Discovery Board for Sessions 3 to 5 hands-on workshops (PDF)' in the Classroom for Session 3. It has complete instructions for what you will need

IAR - yes the code-size limited version can be used. When you activate IAR for the first time, the License Manager kicks in, and requests which flabor you want to register.

You will need an internet connection to Activate.

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@theslawek Yea, I've gotten lazy and spoiled watching videos

ARM architecture and assembly is so different than what I've been doing...

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rwilliams: most STM32's have very close pin compatibility.  It's not always 100% but close!

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STM32 has pin compatibility across the family

@scott93. Did you get my emails?

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Can the size-limited (32K) compiler option be used instead of the time-limited version.  Apologies if this has already been answered.

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Read the reference manual for the series of MCU you want to learn. Take lots of notes and extract the useful information. It's very soothing reading! ;)

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Another feature I like to look for when selecting a controller is pin compatibility in the family so that if feature creep requires moving to a bigger part from the same vendor, the board doesn't need to be re-layed out.

A certain mfg. Jacob mentioned has perhaps hundreds of videos detailing the peripherals in their MCUs. The STM youtube seems to be filled with short promos. Would be so nice to see some videos about how to understand and use the busses, DMA, ADC, LTDC, et.

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Jacob, do you have a book or something printed?, just for beginners! using SMT32, because I program all my life with microchip in C!, and it's difficult to change platform in the same level MCU

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Or the stm32f429 chip. Scary. Great chip!

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Thank you Jacob and EETimes for another excellent lecture.  Having classes with a hands on lab is a great idea!

Great Job!  I have taught an introductory processor course using the PIC and wish to broaden my knowledge into the ARM processor.

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Digi-Key should have more stock of the kits later this week

@Barnwell, the audio works for me, so it must be an incompatibility or blocking in your setup. There is a More Troubleshooting link you can follow for ideas on how to resolve the problem.

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Nobody has stock on this board. Wonder why?

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Digi-Key shows no stock for the board.

Please read the 'Setting up the STM32F429 Discovery Board for Sessions 3 to 5 hands-on workshops (PDF)' in Session3 Classroom it had links and instruction for all the siftware needed for Sessions 3 - 5

Many thanks, I'll check this out.

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CooCox  Yesterday I posted some links to the CooCox system. If you check their forums someone has done some work so that this kit can be used with their system and the "Standard" EABI ARM cross compiler. The older Discovery Kit now works directly.

I have successfully used IAR, CooCox and EABI compiler under cygwin and MinGw -- lots of choice.

http://www.coocox.org/index.html

So if you do not have the bankroll for IAR -- which is worth every dime -- try the other routes.

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One of my favorite starter books is An Embedded Software Primer.  It does focus more on software though than microcontroller fundamentals

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So here is the tool chain link:

http://www.iar.com/Service-Center/Downloads/

 

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Leviton Dave you don't need a JLINK as the board has an embedded STLINK. Make sure you have EWARM 6.7

 

Jacob -- Good outline.  Thanks.  A similar overview on programming tools would be helpful.  What open source or low cost tools would you recommend?

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drw36: I believe all projects target IAR/Keil and others

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@drw36

The upcoming hands-on training is targeted for IAR. We recommend using this IDE to follow the training. You can of course port the exercises on your own to another IDE...

 

Qualified atteendees will receive an email tomorrow (12/4/13) notifying them that a kit is on the way. 

(is that large enough?) :)

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Leviton, the nice thing is that the serial debugger interface is built into the development kit so you won't need an external tool.  I've had great experiences so far with the IAR I-Jet.   and the I-Scope for low power measurement.

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Great presentation!

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Thank you Jacob, EE Times, and ST team. Looking forward to next week's lesson.  Do you recommend any good text books for beginners?  I'm new to MCUs and I'd like to get a nice book to reference while I am learning.

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I just tried that and didn't get any audio.  Anything else I can try?

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You will need the STM32F429 Discovery board (part number STM32F429I-DISCO) for the next session

@Leviton Dave: If you qualify for the board, you should receive an email tomorrow and the kit in a few days!

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you can download the audio, using realplayer!! it's free!

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@Leviton, you should get a confirming email on the kit tomorrow

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thanks Jacob!  Very well presented lecture.  Looking forward to day 3.

 

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@Barnwell, go to the first lecture page and click on the play button for the audio

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The presentation will be available for at least 6 months

To echo the question: when/how do we get confirmation on the dev kit?

I also have an active IAR ARM license so I think I'll be good on that account (other than my j-link probe died and the new segger is giving me fits. :( )

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Cortex-M, 1 step after t' other and on the same ladder no less. I

don't like changing canoes in mid stream either. -C

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@miha_Alex: The STM32F429 parts on the board have a HW LCD controller

Hello, i have a F4409 discovery board and i'm planing to use it during next session. Is it true that it different from 427 only with LCD?

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Are the workshop and examples IAR specific or can Keil MDK also be used with no issues?

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Super.  Thank you for the information, and the workshop.  It has been very good!  Looking forward to next week.

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sverdino they will send you an email on wednesday to tell you that you qualify.  

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How long will this presentation be available? It's fantastic for a STEM class.

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How do I replay the audio from Session 1?

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You can include assembly instructions in the C.  If you take a look at the startup files you will notice the startup for the micros is generally done in C before the C environment is copied to RAM and setup!  

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Does the STM32F4, that is used in this dev board, has hardware LCD contoller?

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is there a way to check if I qualify for the dev kit? I attanded both webinars, but if I don't qualify I want to buy it from digikey.

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gerald:  you can surely add assembly to your C project, but it's tough in ARM!

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I need to go back and get the firs couple of slides worth of audio as I had issues trying to log in.

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mbrennner:  most of our library API's are similar amongst different families.  Just new features may be added/slightly different

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I know Programming C is typically the nore for 32bit MCU's, But is there a compiler availible for assembly prgramming as well?

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Thanks Jacob,

This is GREAT!!! 

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Thank you. Downloading the Getting.Started.files now.

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My realplayer helped me to down load the audio

 

excellent. can't wait for the labs.

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Thanks again Jacob and EETimes!

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@nanotech, you can save the powerpoint, but the audio is only available from this site

CEO

The nice thing is that when moving between parts withi in the Cortex-M family the instructions sets are subsets of each other so it is very easy to move up in the family

Blogger

Very nice presentation. Thank you!

@William.Greathouse

Qualified atteendees will receive an email tomorrow notifying them that a kit is on the way!
Rookie

The instructions for preparing for the next session are in 'Setting up the STM32F429 Discovery Board for Sessions 3 to 5 hands-on workshops (PDF)' available in the Session 3 Classroon

@william.greathouse, you should get a confirmation email tomorrow

CEO

In most applications we've usually selected one within a couple of days of having a hardware interface and basic software architecture.

Blogger

can I save this presentation? 

Rookie

You didn't mention anything about language/programming the Microcontroller. Does one need to be a C (or any other language) expert  to maximize the power of a microcontroller ?

 

Rookie

Thank you.  Couple of quick questions.  Does there have to be any code rework to move up in the micro family?  When checking availability of a part, will any EOL dates be on the site, or will the rep know?  Thank you.

Rookie

@sm_research, yes audio is archived and should be available later today

CEO

When do we find out if we are receiving a free board? It would be nice to know so a development board could be ordered from a distributor in time for next week's hands-on classes.

Thanks,

Bill

@sbender, you should get an email, yes.

CEO

Not having MISRA-C means that the plugin to analyze the code for the MISRA-C standard is not included.  It won't affect the operation for anything you will most likely want to experiment with.

Blogger

Thanks Jacob, Rich Q, ST folks, ST, Digi-Key, & EE Times

Rookie

Where can I find what expansion boards are available for this controller?

 

Rookie

ALL: Qualified attendees who are getting a kit will get an email tomorrow

Rookie

sbender130  yes, by email tomorrow

Rookie

Thanks! It's a great classes! I'm from Ukraine. STM32F4 is my passion. Thank you one more time for such understandable course)

Rookie

Will the audio be archived?

 

Rookie

how mmuch time do you generally spend pickingg a processor ? we have tended to pick one and use it unless it s limiting in soe area.

Rookie

Where do I get the kit and what is the cost?

Rookie

Thanks, looking forward to the labs.

Rookie

Thanks, Jacob... informative and nice presentation.

Rookie

Yes you do need the 30-day eval version and it should EWARM 6.7

What graphics lib come with the board?

 

Rookie

@Jacob:  Do we get an email confirming our dev board is on the way?

Rookie

I believe the Display examples are larger than 32k

Blogger

Hmm..., Now what to do with a gyro?...

Rookie

Hal:

 

As long as you are on the same IDE: IAR 6.70 you should be fine

Thank you again Jacob. Great lecture!

Thank you EETimes

Thank you ST and Digi-key

Rookie

thanks Jacob.  I'm looking forward to the workshops!

Rookie

Thank you for your presentation and see you next week in the lab sessions...

Rookie

Is the IAR the only option for this dev board?

And what does it mean to not have MISRA C?

Rookie

Thank you.  That was quite informative.

Also, the audio was much better, today.

Rookie

Thank You jacob, I will be looking forward to being part of the rest of you presntations !!

Rookie

How do the ST MCU compare to others on the market?

 

Rookie

Thank you for a great presentation

Rookie

What software tool was used to create the software diagram?

 

Rookie

Hi, time limited evaluation is mandatory or can installe the 32K vertion ?

Rookie

Thanks Jacob ... another good session.

 

Rookie

Thanks Jacob and Rich.

Rookie

Thanks, Jacob.

Great job!

Ori.

Thanks, Jacob and company

Rookie

Thanks. Look forward to the hands on!

Rookie

Thanks again, Jacob.  Very interesting and informative.

Rookie

What about GNU compiler and tools ??

 

Rookie

Jacob,  I wish you had covered the additional work of investigating MCU features of integration with GPU, DSP, or FPGA, ertc.

Rookie

Your welcome everyone!

Blogger

Thanks for very good overview, Jacob!

Rookie

Thanks, looking forward to next class

Rookie

Can the Keil MDK (I already have installed from a ARM class) be used for the workshop? Is there a setup guide for the MDK?

Rookie

FYI, the training materials Jacob mentioned are on Day 3-5 classroom page where the slides are also located

Rookie

Thanks Jacob, how do we know if we were among the first 1000 registrants? Will we recieve an email?

 

Rookie

Without MISRA C support, can I used C? Do you provide free C compiler?

 

Rookie

Thanks Jacob... looking forward to the Hands-On! :-)

Rookie

Does https://ubmelectronics.box.com/s/5bui2cwtgkt1g1qxnj58

also include the IAR embedded workbench or do I need to d/l that separately?

Also, will the non-time limited basic one work for the rest of the course or do I need the time-limited one?

 

Rookie

I have tried IE, Chrome and now Firfox. Adobe flash works great in all of them but the JW player does not work at all.

Freelancer

Thanks Jacob and EETimes

Rookie

Thanks Jacob, Rich & ST.

Rookie

Do we need to need to have the Time based or can we get away with the size based?

Greta session, thanx!

 

Rookie

Any recommendations for software to use after the expiration time?

 

Rookie

Very informative, thank you!

 

Rookie

I use eclipse + codesourcery toolchain/compiler texane/st-link for my development on linux

Rookie

Hello Everyone!  Thanks for attending and your attention!

Blogger

Thanks too! see you!

 

Rookie

Thanks looking forward to next week.

Thank you. See you next week!

 

Rookie

Jacob, I'm really looking forward to the hands-on workshop with the board next week!  Thanks for another outstanding seminar.

Rookie

Thanks Jacob. Great job!

Rookie

We encourage everyone who is participating in the Hands-on sessions next week to download the software and get the Discovery Board up and running in advance of the class. If you run into problems, please contact Jacob or sign into the chat. We will be monitoring (irregularly) during the week!

 

Rookie

Thanks again,

 

Dan

Rookie

Thanks - very interesting presentaton

 

Rookie

@theslavek's links for Eclipse setup is great; just what I was looking for to get True Studio setup into Eclipse

 

Rookie

Thans! Do we need the development board for the next session?

Rookie

Thanks very much

 

Rookie

great lecture, thank u Jacob

 

Namaste

Rookie

ah, I see my own answer...they are locked to "exipre" after a fixed time.

 

Qualified attendees who are getting a kit will get an email tomorrow

@ ST_Alec_Bath

Great, thanks!

Rookie

can keil be used with the demo board?

Rookie

I think we can work with eclipse ide too!

Rookie

So, these boards seem to have the same/more of something like a Ardino.  So why doesn't everyone buy this type of board instead?

I'm signed up for the lab/workshops.  how do I know if I'm going to get a free kit sent?

 

Rookie

You can remove jumpers and bolt it into your application as well!

Rookie

I am using Chrome. Will try FF.

Freelancer

NO, embedded one is the same!

Rookie

@St_Alec_Bath. Does the emulated st-link on the discovery board vary much in performance compared to the hardware st-link dongle?

Rookie

what class of free framework we can get from STM32?

Rookie

Click on any part number and click on Sample & Buy tab to see stock at distributors worldwide

For example for STM32F405, click on Sample & Buy tab

http://www.st.com/web/catalog/mmc/FM141/SC1169/SS1577/LN1035/PF252144#

 

 

thnks ST_Alec_Bath!

 

Rookie

When blocked by corporate, a tethered Cell phone works great.

 

Rookie

For me FF works, however for some reason I have to wait 7-10min before play starts

Rookie

theslawek: SWD is much more capable than JTAG.  Some 3rd-party implementations may be a bit faster though (JLINK, etc)

Rookie

@ST_Alec: We are trying to capture Digitals and communicate over serial simultaneously. Our communications are async and our digitals are small blips so 180mhz would be a 9x speed boost and might work :)

I'm block by corporate.

Rookie

Hal:  180MHz with DMA/FPU/DSP instructions and smart peripherals are not enough?

Rookie

Is SWD (through st-link on stm32l-discovery) just as capable as a hardware (JTAG) debugger? I use SWD on the STM32L-Discovery and it seems a bit sluggish. I'd like to know if it's worth purchasing a external hardware debugger tool.

Rookie

@Jamie - Latest Firefox with latest flash is working fine for me, no issues.

Rookie

@ST_Guys. Good point. Hadn't though about that. Unfortunately we almost need a dual core for all we are doing.

ecosystem - e.g. static code analysis like MISRA

Rookie

Jamie: Ouch. Can you try another browser? FF and Chrome seem to work best.

Rookie

HalHockersmith:

All of the STM32 family is single core today. The minimum high end CPU frequency is 32MHz. So most operations can be handled by a single core processor. With dynamic clocking, you have the ability to control power based on CPU frequency including sleep and stop states. Much easier than to synchronize two processors.

ST-PR GUY My problem is that I cannot get the JW player to work. So I cannot see the archieves either.

Freelancer

Digikey has no stm32f429's available! :(

Rookie

Hal:  At such low frequencies, I would recommend a single MCU with good low power modes (like the STM32!)  :)

Rookie

We have an embedded Brown out reset circuit on all STM32's

 

having trouble with firefox...switch to chrome and no problem... 

 

Rookie

Yang: Our 3rd party tools providers provide code coverage tools (IAR, Keil, Atollic,etc)

Rookie

brown-out detect parameter to protect mcu from harmonic or bad energy?

 

Rookie

Hello from Kansas city

Rookie

Jamie Patterson -- some people had success listening to the presentation from the archive after the session concludes.

Rookie

Do you have any tools for microcontroller code coverage?

What is your solution for unit test of the microcontroller code?

 

Rookie

is it better to use two processors running at say 1mhz and communicating back and forth or one processor running at 4mhz to juggle the tasks?

Anyone with audio issues, please come back and listen to Archive.  

Rookie

I give up trying to hear this. I wish you used Adobe instead of JW Player.

Freelancer

URL???

"Click on the Excel icon to download the parametric spreadsheet"

Rookie

@theslawek: Thanks for the input, we are always working on improving our web experience

Click on the Excel icon to download the parametric spreadsheet

@ST. Can you reduce the # of scroll bars in your MCU search tool. It's hard to navigate sometimes.

Rookie

You can also download the XLS file for searching off line

Chrome here... no issues whatsoever

 

Rookie

just moved to slide 8

Rookie

Slide 8 if you are listening live

Rookie

Seems power requirments should be included too.

 

Rookie

I give up, I tried IE and Chrome (which was worse)

Rookie

what slide are we on now

 

Rookie

CoreMark is a standardized unit for measuring MCU processing power

ljose:  the CoreMark benchmark is probably the best reference

Rookie

DSC is correct, it stands for Digital Signal Controller

 

ajbieee - a DSP is a dedicated digital signal processor. A DSC is a microcontroller with dsp capability

Rookie

M4 has new DSP instructions + floating point unit all the MCU capabilities

Rookie

ST_Alec: how do I measure the processing power? is there any specific unit?

Rookie

hherrrera, come back after the live portion and listen to the archive should be there around 1:pm EST

Rookie

Error on Slide #6 - says "32-bit/DSC" and it should read "32-Bit/DSP" for the Cortex-M4...

Rookie

ljose:  processing power in your application I guess would be better

Rookie

DSC = Digital Signal Controller = DSP + MCU

Rookie

maybe they mean Digital Signal Computation applications

Rookie

rshankle: Digital Signal Controller

 

Rookie

Nope, can't hear you at all.  Please switch to a working broadcaster like youtube or ustream or livestream.  I'll have to watch the archive later.  *sigh*

Rookie

DSC = Digital Signal Controller

Rookie

Wow, crowded class site today!

Rookie

I'm using chrome. I wish this did not require the JW Player

Freelancer

Make sure your javascript blockers, ad blockers, and privacy extensions are turned off as well. Just for now.

I switched over to chrome and it is working better

 

Rookie

Is DSC a typo?  (DSP?)

 

Rookie

I believe slide 10 should say "32-bit/DSP", and not "32-bit/DSC"...

Rookie

For later, I would like more detail on Step 2, estimating the software architecture and design

Rookie

Delete IE forever :)

Rookie

Step2: how do I decide the processing power of the software? what exactly is that?

Rookie

This JW player does not work very well.

Freelancer

Alan- keep clicking the play button, eventually it seems to stick.

 

Rookie

Alan, try another browser FF or Chrome

Rookie

I cannot get the audio to stay active

Rookie

Rich,

I will see how long I can stay, I may have to bounce in and out.

Blogger

Good afternoon.  Enjoying the lecture!  Listened to yesterday's this morning.

Rookie

Aero, the login is enough, but please do join in the discussion

CEO

Hello from Durham NC

Rookie

HI from sylmar, ca

 

Rookie

Hi from Sebastopol, CA

Rookie

I guess that I should post then to let people know that I am here!

Blogger

Present from Troy, MI.  Was here yesterday and looking forward to today

 

Rookie

anon, you have to log in to attend and post, and so we know you are here

CEO

Audio keeps stopping for me

 

Rookie

Hi from Viginia Beach!

Rookie

How do we/you verify that we attended the first two sessions, so we qualify for the discovery board?

 

Yesterday I was able to listen to the presentation at 13:00h ??

Rookie

Hi Everybody from Lima, Peru!

Rookie

Audio working fine in Chrome and Adobe again here in North Carolina

Rookie

lessaro-try refreshing or change browser

Rookie

Make sure you don't have javascript disabled because that's how it loads (and also verifies your attendance). If the player does not show up, go to this page and press play. 

http://www.blogtalkradio.com/dn_audioplayer2.html?show_id=5658731&autostart=true

Rookie

still cannot hear anything

 

Rookie

Hey sounding good today. Much better mic.

Has anyone downloaded the tool setup yet?

Rookie

i am sorry i cannot hear you.

Rookie

ravisravis-try refresh and click play

Rookie

Hi from Santa Cruz, CA

Rookie

Hi from Raleigh, NC!

Rookie

You may need to press play on the player

Hello from Jackson, Michigan !!!
I am ready for another exciting class on the ARM MCU Technology !!

Rookie

Has the lecture started ???Don't see the conf. tool yet

Rookie

Audio has started!

 

Rookie

Hello from Wake Forest NC

Rookie

Hello from St-Basile-le-Grand, Québec

Rookie

Any idea of how many of us logged on for session 1?

 

Rookie

Hello from Connecticut

Rookie

Top of the morning to you all!

Rookie

Good morning from Albuquerque.

Rookie

Good morning from Birmingham, AL.

 

Rookie

@Jacob Beningo - Another suggestion I don't see in your slides is to check for chip errata before making the final choice. There could be few or many, and they may be a major problem, or not affect your project at all.

Rookie

Good Morning from Huntsville, Al

Rookie
Hello, trying a different network and computer today, hopefully I can watch this live
Rookie

We'll be starting in just a few minutes. Make sure you have downloaded today's slide deck so you can follow along.

CEO

Hello from Raleigh, NC

Rookie

Hello from Dayton/Columbus

 

Rookie

Right-click on "Today's Slide Deck" for presentation slides.

Hello from Utah.

Rookie

Greetings from Kitchener, Ontario, Canada.

Rookie

Hello everyone, also from SoCal here!

Rookie

Good Morning from  Ohio today, Michigan tomorrow...

Rookie

Good Morning from Denver, CO

Rookie

Good morning from sunny SoCal

 

Rookie

Good morning from Richmond, BC... 

Rookie

hello from Greensboro, NC, USA

Rookie

What's the weather in Italy?

Rookie

Good morning, all, from ST in Boston, Chicago and Santa Clara!

 

Rookie

Hello from Cincinnati

 

Rookie

Hello from Rome, Italy

Rookie

@eetimesar: What's the temp in Ottawa?  My home state of Minnesota is pretty cold right now.

Rookie

Dowing well Jacob. How about yourself?


Greetings from the middle of the US, Nebraska

Hello from the Florida Space Coast.

Rookie

Greetings from Vermont

Rookie

Hello from San Diego

Rookie

Hello from Ottawa, Canada

Rookie

Hello how is everyone today?

Blogger

Hi from Crusty at Crusty Mansion, England

CEO

Good Day from Toronto

Theo

Rookie

Hello from Tennessee

Rookie

Hi, Santa Rosa, CA

 

Rookie

personally I've already ordered because I'm from Romania, so I'm not qualified for the free board

Rookie

Hi from Kyiv, Ukraine!

 

Rookie

you can order the board from: http://www.st.com/web/catalog/tools/FM116/SC959/SS1532/PF259090

Rookie

Welcome, all. We'll be starting in about 20 minutes.

CEO

do we know how tto order a board and/or how to determine if we are in the running for one of the 1000  ?  I can't find anyone who has them

 

Rookie

Good morning from Portland Oregon

 

Rookie

Also for the new attendees, please click on Today's slide deck above and download the powerpoint. 

Rookie

Welcome back everyone, and to the new folks, please see the note below regarding the audio stream. 

The audio player will load automatically when the radio show audio begins. Some corporate networks block the sort of streaming audio content used by this player. Please make sure you have the latest version of Adobe Flash for your Internet browser via Adobe's web site. If the player loads but you are not able to hear the live audio, you may still be able to hear the archived audio after the live program begins by returning to this page. More Troubleshooting

Firefox and Chrome are the preferred browser for streaming

Rookie

Good Morning from SC

Rookie

Hello from sunny SE Lake Simcoe Ontario Canada.

Rookie

Good Morning from Carson, California.

Rookie

Hello from Merritt Island

 

Rookie

Good morning from South Carolina.

Rookie

Good morning from Texas.

Rookie

Good morning from Nebraska!

Hello from the Space Coast

 

Rookie

Good Morning from Indiana

Rookie

Good morning from CO

Rookie

Good morning from Scottsdale, AZ

Rookie

Good Morning from Ohio!

 

Rookie

Good morning from Manitowoc, WI.

Rookie

Good morning from Fargo, ND.

Rookie

Good Morning from PC FL.

Rookie

How many attendees made the grade for the dev kits yesterday ?

Rookie

Good morning from balmy Central New York

Rookie

Good morning from Toronto

Rookie

Good Morning from New Jersey

Rookie

Slides good! Later

Rookie

Keep Mr Beningo busy. He's a fantastic teacher.

Rookie


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