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krisi
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new for Micron?
krisi   11/18/2013 2:40:43 PM
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Micron developing a processor? that must be new for them...why do it?

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Re: new for Micron?
tty2   11/18/2013 3:52:34 PM
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Because it's based on memory, the computation components are basically interleaved in the memory so that you get enormous parallelism

krisi
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Re: new for Micron?
krisi   11/18/2013 4:09:13 PM
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I know...but this is entirely new business segment...maybe it will work out for them

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Re: new for Micron?
chipmonk0   11/18/2013 4:46:31 PM
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Now that Micron is enjoying higher stock price ( quadrupled this year ) after they were able to affect the supply - demand situation for DRAMs in their favor by acquiring Elpida at bargain basement price, its time for them to at last diversify into higher margin products like processors.

Would be interested to find out process integration issues of mixing CPU and SRAM, DRAM on the same die, or they might be trying out their HMC technology for tight coupling of CPU and SRAM / DRAM on separate dice.

Comments ? speculation ?

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Re: new for Micron?
krisi   11/18/2013 4:54:29 PM
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Interesting thoughts @chipmonk...I wonder whether Micron's move is part of a major transformation in the industry...certain types of data processing seems to be lending itself to graphical chips not traditional processors...these new processor will start eating away from revenue by Intel etc...how significant is that threat? Kris

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Memory + CPU/GPU
junko.yoshida   11/18/2013 6:20:57 PM
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I am curious to find out if there are other instances where a memory chip company is collaborating on the specific GPU/CPU architecture...

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Re: new for Micron?
rick merritt   11/18/2013 6:39:43 PM
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@TTY2 Are you familiar with the Micron Automata?

If so, tell us a bit about the internals of the architecture and its programming model.

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Re: new for Micron?
rick merritt   11/18/2013 6:41:54 PM
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As Chipmonk noted, Micron has long ttried to get a foot into the logic market where ASPs and margins are much bigger.

This is its loatest effort, but frankly I have seen many massively multicore architectures that were all so hard to program they never went anywhere. I have yet to see one succeed and as far as I can tell this is still very much an academic and lab experiment.

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Re: new for Micron?
cognitive_computer   11/18/2013 8:10:28 PM
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@chipmonk0 - Micron bought the remaining 38.6 percent of Ovonyx phase change memory tech from bankrupt ECD last August for just $12 million bit [dot] ly/1aNXcrl and they signed a technology agreement with Intel "regarding certain emerging memory technologies" some time before that.  So it is likely that this "non Von Neumann" is ECD's "Cognitive Computer".  Just google "Ovshinsky Cognitive Computer" for the details on that.  IBM has been working for some time on the tech so I'm curious to see what value was realized in that transaction.  The technology is brilliant.  Iif attainable, it can recognize a picture of Joe from logistics, a golden retriever or a laffer curve - or video for that matter.  Limitless.  Number Johnny Five sort of stuff.

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Re: new for Micron?
tty2   11/18/2013 10:14:12 PM
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Glad you guys got that SSL error all sorted!

 

And no, all I know is what's in the press release, which includes a link to a paper they presented at some conference - it has a pretty good explanation of the architecture

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