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About the Main Processor
chipmonk0   12/3/2013 9:30:08 AM
the text reads " .. The main processor chip has the same style of heat-dissipating package as the PS4 CPU,.. " 

Why are we calling this a Heat Dissipating Package ?

The heat is generated in the large die in the middle where there does not seem to be any heat sink, not by the passives surrounding it. If by " heat dissipating package " the window frame like metal around the die is being referred to, then where is the thermal path from the large die to this metal part ?

Is it more likely that the metal frame is there as a Stiffener for a new type of thinner but electrically more efficient substrate ( PCB ) under the processor chip ?

This could be easily verified by looking at the x - sections as I had commented to earlier Teardown of the PS4. 

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Re: Yes It is nothing but a PC
chrisnfolsom   12/3/2013 8:25:31 AM
With the economies of scale why would anyone use anything but pc parts?  From a software perspective Sony has learned that having unique development requirements limits the games developed for your console - even if you are faster and better.  The new PS4 has a SoC with 2 Quad Core x86 cpus and 20 AMD Graphic cores and porting to it should be as easy as porting to the XBox from a PC.

Also, these consoles are nothing like PC's - normal consumer PC's.  They are much more powerful, and while you can make PC's that are quicker - that is not a target audience, and these new consoles are going to speed up the downfall of the desktop PC...

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Re: Yes It is nothing but a PC
krisi   12/2/2013 1:44:36 PM
reducing the hardware?...I see the opposite trend, we all have more devices at home...in 10 years I have gone from 1 (just PC) to 10 (PC, 3 laptops, 2 smartphones, 2 tablets, appleTV, console)...if you reduce teh hardware where is teh revenue growth coming from?

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Re: 50Hz
Caleb Kraft   12/2/2013 1:04:18 PM
I haven't heard any complaints about that. The Xbox 360 had the same design.

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Re: Yes It is nothing but a PC
Caleb Kraft   12/2/2013 1:03:14 PM
They always have been! But the question is, what else would you expect them to be?

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Re: 50Hz
Sheetal.Pandey   12/2/2013 9:13:16 AM
Wondering how would comfortable is the design of joysticks in diagonal. Sony has at the same level. The XBOX outer casing's looks are reduced by that partition view. 

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bobdvb   11/30/2013 4:40:06 PM
Nothing wrong with being built from PC parts, makes it economical and uses best practice for that level of number crunching. I would have been more surprised if it had been an ARM core! Okay they (Sony or Microsoft) didn't use PowerPC again, but given they are trying to keep costs down doing a deal with AMD should achieve that.

The big failure is their handling of 50Hz, really? Adding an extra frame every 5th frame to boost it to 60Hz?

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KB3001   11/30/2013 9:38:47 AM
Big companies e.g. microsoft prefer incremental changes to radical ones. It does not surprise me AT ALL that the Xbox is essentially a PC, if it were the opposite I would have screamed :-)

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Re: Yes It is nothing but a PC
AZskibum   11/30/2013 8:07:35 AM
From a purely hardware perspective, the Xbox & Xbox 360 were also just "nothing but a PC." But from the software side, the user interface side (game controllers & headsets) and the overall ecosystem, they were always entertainment devices -- far more so than most desktop PCs. It looks like MS has further extended the entertainment capabilities with the Xbox One, and I wish them lots of success in the marketplace.

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