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jimfordbroadcom
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Smoke detector batteries?
jimfordbroadcom   12/5/2013 12:00:12 PM
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I'm curious as to why nobody thought to remove the batteries (temporarily) from the smoke detectors.  That's our solution for false alarms.  Just don't forget to put them back in!

Etmax
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Fire in the hole
Etmax   12/4/2013 6:12:35 PM
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We bought a self cleaning oven back in 1982 that had a special catalyst material all over the interior. It didn't have a special cleaning cycle, instead autocleaning each time a small splat of oil/fat hit the walls. We had it until 2000 and it was always spotless. It even survived my wife deciding to need to clean it with some chemical product thinking that would make it cleaner than clean. We would have it now still if it weren't for us selling the house it was in.


In our current house purchased in 2000 we got a new oven that had self cleaning liners covering some 60% of the interior so now we have to periodically remove liners and go through and clean the oven manually and the liners are always spotless.

Why would anybody think that liners covering 60% of the interior would be adequate?

I'm interested in hearing from anyone who can shed light on why we now think that we need to heat the oven interior to 600C to clean it when the catalyst seemed to work well at less than 300C over nearly 20 years.

The conspiracy theorist in me says MrMuscle had something to do with it :-)

Max The Magnificent
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Re: I'm a lateral thinker
Max The Magnificent   12/4/2013 3:04:43 PM
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@David: And do any of them show any penchant for electronics?

No, but at lesat the grandkids are impressed by my flashing LEDs LOL

David Ashton
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Re: I'm a lateral thinker
David Ashton   12/4/2013 3:02:15 PM
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@Max... "I've got two daughters (and four grandkids -- oldest is 19)"

And do any of them show any penchant for electronics?

Max The Magnificent
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Re: I'm a lateral thinker
Max The Magnificent   12/4/2013 2:54:15 PM
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@David: What about your other kid?

I've got two daughters (and four grandkids -- oldest is 19) from my first marriage; just Joseph from my current marriage.

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Re: I'm a lateral thinker
David Ashton   12/4/2013 2:51:16 PM
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@Max.... he'll probably turn into a mad artist (or an accountant or a lawyer) and earn more $ than all of us.

What about your other kid?

 

Max The Magnificent
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Re: I'm a lateral thinker
Max The Magnificent   12/4/2013 2:43:56 PM
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@David: He's an 18-year-old lad with no interest in science or technology...

It's so sad -- I am the dad I wish I'd had (if you see what I mean)

I keep on trying to interest him -- I'd love to teach him microcontrollers and electronics and stuff -- but when I show him flashing LEDs and things he just says "That's very nice Max" and then he wanders off to do his own thing :-)

 

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Re: I'm a lateral thinker
David Ashton   12/4/2013 2:41:11 PM
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@Max...caustic chemical for cleaning ovens,,,,I think that is caustic soda (Sodium Hydroxide) - they still use it for cleaning drains, which is fortunate as that allows me to steal some for developing PCBs :-)

Re Joseph - "He's an 18-year-old lad with no interest in science or technology" ... not even in cellphones?  Couldn't he call you or G then G for help?  A teenager without a celphone would be a unique beast indeed....

Max The Magnificent
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Max The Magnificent   12/4/2013 10:08:27 AM
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@Victor: And that can effectively produce smoke! ;)

Joseph would agree with you on that one :-)

Max The Magnificent
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Re: I'm a lateral thinker
Max The Magnificent   12/4/2013 10:07:38 AM
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@SA_Penguin: I've never heard of a self-cleaning oven...

As Victor said, the self-cleaning cycle raises the temperature way high -- all that's left afterwards is a thin sheen of fine white powder around the inside of the oven that you wipe off with a damp cloth.

I remember the gas ovens when I was a kid -- my mom used to have to put some caustic chemical foam thing in there to clean it -- after which the food tasted funny (well, funnier than usual) for ages...

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