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EFosters
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Strong IP?
EFosters   12/10/2013 2:33:11 PM
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Any idea just how strong the IP is of Spanison?  I've assumed they have some pretty fundamental memory IP if they were able to get the big boy Samsung to settle while Spansion was in an extremely weak state during its bankruptcy. 

I scratch my head as an observer of the various IP battles happenig in the industry.  Is it a good thing, or not?  As an engineer, I see the importance of protecting one's IP.  If I were in Spanison's shoes I think I would want to fight tooth and nail too and not necessarily settle either. 

A price should be paid for misuing IP, but it is also true that some companies get to the same conclusion indepentant of one another as well.  How do you parse that?  Do you just reward the company that filed the paperwork first?

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Re: Strong IP?
junko.yoshida   12/10/2013 3:59:09 PM
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@EFosters, as to the strength of Spansion's IPs, obviously, I think that's something for our legal system to decide. While I do understand that people are weary of all the news about IP battles, in the end, companies have to do everything in their power to protect their IPs. No questions about it. 

We will see how far Spansion will take this (especially on eCT front).

 

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betajet   12/11/2013 7:35:55 PM
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Junko Yoshida said: ...in the end, companies have to do everything in their power to protect their IPs. No questions about it.

Actually, I believe there is a question and a trade-off.  When a company becomes a patent aggressor, it's often the case that the company has ceased to be a technological leader and must instead live off its existing patents and what it has purchased from others when the company had a lot of cash.  Companies with great new ideas and great products are too busy developing those ideas and products to waste time preparing lawsuits.  At least that's the impression I get, and I'm sure I'm not alone.

A public company has an obligation to its shareholders to maximize the company's value.  If suing over dubious patents besmirches a company's reputation and makes it look like it's on its way down, that's not maximizing shareholder value.

JMO/YMMV/IANAL

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zewde yeraswork   12/12/2013 9:20:52 AM
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Of course, time isn't the only limiting factor here. It's more likely that bieing big enough as a company to pursue lawsuits while continuing to innovate on the side is what determines whether a company in fact chooses to do what it must to protect its IP. It's a luxury many companies don't have.

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contention
zewde yeraswork   12/10/2013 3:52:58 PM
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whether these two companies are incidentally treading over the same territory or not, it sounds like they're pretty serious about their IPs and ready to battle over them

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Potential IP battle brewing...
junko.yoshida   12/10/2013 4:05:01 PM
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Based on all the quesitons I received from our readers on my previous story (http://www.eetimes.com/document.asp?doc_id=1320210), I did a follow-up interview with Spansion.

Here's that story.

The conversation with Spansion executive clarified who will be manufacturing embedded MCUs with eCT at which node. (UMC @40-nm).

But more interesting was the potential IP battle brewing  on Renesas embedded Flash vs. Spansion's eCT, as indicated by Spansion's executive.

We will know more when Renesas gets back to us.

 

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Patent battles distract resources away from activities that provide real value.
superopamp   12/11/2013 11:49:42 AM
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The patent protection system is overdue for an overhaul. There are few truly unique innovations that deserve patent protection. Most are solutions that any competent engineer or scientist would come up with when faced with a specific problem. The current system results in a lot of work by accountants and lawyers that provides no real benefit to society.

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Re: Patent battles distract resources away from activities that provide real value.
zewde yeraswork   12/11/2013 1:05:55 PM
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It does seem as though the legal battles amount to a lot of nothing--except for employment and billing hours for lawyers and others, and more headaches and confusions for end users.

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Difference in Technology
DrFPGA   12/11/2013 12:22:32 PM
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Anyone know what the difference (if any) is for these two? It would be great to get a quick summary from someone 'in the know'. Maybe there are already articles on the EE Times site that discuss this?

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junko.yoshida   12/12/2013 2:21:38 PM
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DrFPGA, I am looking into it. Stay tuned.

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DrFPGA   12/12/2013 3:04:54 PM
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Thanx-

here is one I found...

http://www.eetimes.com/document.asp?doc_id=1280939 

 



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