@Tomii: One interesting point I forgot to mention is that you can use BCD representations to represent anything you want -- so you could use BCD to represent integer, fixed-point, or floating-point values -- now my head hurts :-)
No, I actually meant the wealth of numbers that are on the real axiz of the complex plane (ow, that makes my head hurt). A decimal is a fraction (maybe), if you can just figure out what it is. Now, I'm not trying to say any of those ways you can represent the real numbers is correct, because we're almost always going to lose something somewhere.
Like I keep saying, evaluate your alternatives, and choose the method(s) that best match your needs/requirements. My way most assuredly is not the best way, and your mileage (like my own) may vary.
Still on nine's and ten's complements -- as you noted the way we perform a subtraction in binary is based on the fact that performing the operation (a - b) is the same as performing the operation ((a + (-b)). In binary, the -b is the two's complment of +b, and we can easily generate this by inverting all of the bits in b (to generate the one's complemet) and then adding 1. It's also easy to do thsi in hardware, because we already have an adder, so we just invert all of the bits in b and then we set the carry-in to the adder to 1 (which equates to the "add 1").
The cool thing is that we can do much the same thing with nine's and ten's complements.
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@Tom: I would guess that the three most common are probably Binary Coded Decimal (BCD), Floating Point, and Fixed Point.
I guess I would have said: Integer (unsigned and signed), Fixed-point, Floating-point, and BCD. Also, integers may be considered to be a special case of fixed-point (i.e., fixed-point without the fractional part).
Traditionally FPGA designers worked predominantly with integer or fixed-point (with some BCD for hardward acceleration targeted at financial applications / high-performance computing). More recently, they are being used to implement floating-point calculations for things like beam-forming and radar applications -- Altera has some real cool stuff in this regard that helps you map a floating-point pipeline onto their DSP slices and programmable fabric.
@Tom: You said There are plenty of ways to represent "real" numbers in a binary system.
The "real" numbers confused me for a moment because in mathematics a real number is a value that represents a quantity along a continuous line -- including integers, fractions, and irrational numbers such as the square root of two. But I think that when you said "real" numbers you meant "numbers in the real world" .. is that right?
Hi Tom -- you've touched on a topic that's close to my heart. As you mention, there are some numbers that are easy to represent in decimal (like 0.1) that cannot be exactly represented in binary (the equivalent to 0.1 is an ever-recurring pattern of 1s and 0s -- since we don't have infinatly large fields in which to store these numbers, we have to truncate, which leads to errors).
Of course, there are some numbers that are difficult to specify in decimal (base-10) -- take 1/3, for example, which equares to 0.333333r (recurring). This would be easy to specify in certain other bases. Similarly, there are some values that are easy to represent in base-2 that cannot easily be represented in base-10.
You mention one reason for using BCD is when you are accepting input from decimal-based devices or providing output to decimal-based devices. There is another big reason -- in many countries it is mandated by law that any financial calculations performed on a computer must return EXACTLY the same results as if they had been performed with pencil and paper. This is so that everyone knows exactly what will happen with regard to rounding values and so forth. The only way to achieve this is for the calulations to be performed using some sort of base-10 representation, like BCD. Check out some blogs I wrote on this topic a few years back: Binary Coded Decimal (BCD) 101 and BCD coming to an FPGA near you
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