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resistion
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Re: Not surprising really
resistion   1/15/2014 11:06:47 AM
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I've witnessed similar bad experiences for my parents in finance and academia, and now I wonder if that subconsciously drove me to science/engineering.

Perhaps one should realize no career path choice can guarantee avoiding the horror tales constantly reported in the trade media?

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Re: Not surprising really
Tunrayo   1/15/2014 9:42:46 AM
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In addition, individuals can take on most tech jobs - such as coding, database, networking - without having university degrees. I think this trend also contributes to reduced engineering enrolment in schools.

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Re: Not surprising really
MeasurementBlues   1/15/2014 9:07:43 AM
Why work so hard in engineering school if the job will just get shipped overseas anyway? I hear that a lot.

MeasurementBlues
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Re: Not Asia, it is the web
MeasurementBlues   1/15/2014 9:06:04 AM
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There are those saying that college is a waste of money--you come out in debt and can't get a job. There are also those who say just learn to code and you can make a decent living without college.

"The 25-35 year old engineer is not doing test or semi or embedded. They do Java, Python, database, web front ends and mobile, Android and iOS. That is what the cool kids were doing when they graduated, so that is their expeince."

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Re: US Age Demographics
MeasurementBlues   1/15/2014 8:58:40 AM
@tmccorm, it depends on who is running the company, the engineers or the accountants. To the accountants, all engineers are the same so go with the least expensive.

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Re: Not surprising really
krisi   1/14/2014 1:56:23 PM
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Good point about SMT robots @betajet...but if most cars, phones, computers will be sold in China and India why bother manufacturing in USA?

 

 

 

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Re: Not surprising really
betajet   1/14/2014 1:43:18 PM
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Actually, I've read that some manufacturing is returning to the USA particularly if your product requires high quality and careful control of what parts actually get manufactured into your product.  You can get quality manufacturing in China, but from what I've heard it requires a great deal of effort -- and thus cost.  If your volumes aren't big enough to warrant that effort, you may be better off in the USA or Europe.

A recent example of this is the Raspberry Pi, which originally was to be manufactured in the UK but costs required that the first large-scale manufacturing be done in China.  However, once volumes reached a certain point they moved production to Wales and had better quality.  If your product is mostly assembled by SMT robots, the labor cost difference no longer applies.

krisi
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Re: Not surprising really
krisi   1/14/2014 10:27:48 AM
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There was a hope in the past that manufacturing will return but I just don't see it...in 20 years there will be no manufacturing here

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Re: US Age Demographics
Tunrayo   1/14/2014 5:22:51 AM
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@tmccorm. Agreed - but what happens to the industry when the epxerienced guys are gone? Hostile takeovers by Chinese companies?

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Re: Not surprising really
Tunrayo   1/14/2014 5:19:51 AM
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Engineering jobs are quite portable ... hence, companies will continue to ship jobs outside the US if such outsourcing saves money. This trend could gradually change the face of the American economy - making it more like the UK - a country profoundly dependent on services.

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