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Re: Samsung and future to grow
_hm   2/17/2014 3:32:06 PM
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@Junko: I was reading news. If not Samsung, Apple is interested in automotive electronics. Rumors are that Apple is in talk with Tesla. Since long I thought so. Apple must look for big market in automotive electronics.

May be sometime latter - bio-medical electronics!

 

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Re: every other empire will have its sunset.. Eventually.
Anand.Yaligar   1/30/2014 11:59:36 AM
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 I would agree however, who will manufacture at lower cost than Samsung?

@elctrnx_lyf, true price matters but not always. Nokia is planning to release android based smartphone. If it happens then I am sure it will impact the sales of Samsung.

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Re : Is Nokia’s 2007 Decline a Lesson for Samsung Today?
Anand.Yaligar   1/30/2014 11:54:28 AM
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@Junko, If Nokia plans to release android based Nokia phones then it will definitely impact the sales of Samsung phones. Many people still prefer Nokia phones because it provides one of the best hardware features compared to other brand phones.

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Re: every other empire will have its sunset.. Eventually.
Paul Sanchez   1/28/2014 12:13:42 PM
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@elctrnx_lyf I would agree however, who will manufacture at lower cost than Samsung? They have the best volume and hence the scale. The only way around this is to sell lesser equipment (lesser specs or quality). There is a large herd of companies pushing Android devices and yet Samsung is on top. Android is also not 100% free as many phone manufacturers "license" the OS from MSFT to avoid potential patent lawsuits. I would also be interested to know which company thinks they control the other Samsung or Google..

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Not just software, but channel, too
daviddever   1/28/2014 12:05:57 PM
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It's worth pointing out that GSM uptake was very slow in this country, and that Nokia failed to make a dent in the Verizon / Sprint CDMA sales channel.  While I was envious of my European colleagues' mini- and slim-form factor feature phones, it was nearly impossible to obtain these through the typical cellular retailers (carrier-owned stores included)here in the United States.  Compare this to Apple's exclusive iPhone rollout with AT&T, and one can easily see that (as sad but true) the European manufacturers misunderstood their potential disadvantage in the North American market.

I happily use a Nokia Lumia 1020 (Windows Phone 8 w/ mechanical optics), knowing full well that it's probably my last chance to use a Nokia-branded phone (on AT&T, by the way).  There are still many open-source software components that I use (or have used in the past) in my daily work that originated at Nokia (or Trolltech); the same cannot be said for Samsung's open-source contributions.


As regards Samsung's CE business (outside mobile) - I'd be very careful to avoid turning into a Sony, whose junk credit rating should be a lesson that an insular approach, resulting in forced yet massive vertical integration, without some breath of fresh ideas and not-invented-here technology, is not always the best path.

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Re: every other empire will have its sunset.. Eventually.
elctrnx_lyf   1/28/2014 10:34:46 AM
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Samsung could face stiff competition from smart phone makers who can make much cheaper phones with a Android. Samsung is definitely dependent on Google and most of the revenue is made by google selling their applications.

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every other empire will have its sunset.. Eventually.
Paul Sanchez   1/27/2014 2:13:57 PM
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I agree with tb100, Windows Phone while still quite small in market share is moving ahead. Consumers are very fickle and trends\tastes change.

 

Who will be the next leader after Samsung and when? That's unknown however, one thing is certain, Samsung like every other empire will have its sunset but it could be years or decades. Also, Samsung is not Nokia, they are very different companies and as such are not equal (Samsung has divisions in dozens of industries).

 

One very important aspect that they will need to consider is quality of product and experience. Another comment earlier that Samsung products 'just work'.. We got a Samsung smart Blu-ray player for Christmas and within 1 minute of using it, it locked up and did a very good imitation of a brick. It needed a long upgrade just to play a dvd out of the box.

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Nokia, now and then
tb100   1/27/2014 1:10:49 PM
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Hidden in all the bad Nokia news is that their Windows phone sales and profits have been rising.

Before Microsoft entered the picture, Symbian sales were starting to fall off of a cliff. Nokia knew that in the modern era, it wasn't enough to have a phone. You had to have a complete cloud solution: appstore, cloud drive, music, maps. They tried to create this for Symbian, but they didn't have the software resources of Microsoft, Google, or Apple. Plus the Symbian OS wasn't up to modern GUIs and apps, 

Their Meego phones were always in a 'looks promising' state, and partnering with Intel delayed things so that they were getting further and further behind the fast moving Apple and Android.

They saw their future and it was bleak. They could either build an Android machine or partner with Microsoft. Microsoft came with a lot of cash to help them through the transition. Realistically I don't see how they had any other choice, unless you are writing a fiction book where the good guys always win even when they are highly outnumbered.

Should they have gone Android? I think you need to reverse the headline. Samsung has a lesson for Nokia. Despite being one of the most well known and respected brands, and basically dominating the Android cell phone and tablet market, they are losing money.

As I said, their Windows phone division is growing and profitable.

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Re: Symbian for Nokia and Smartwatch for Samsung
zewde yeraswork   1/27/2014 10:57:23 AM
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Obviously Nokia and Samsung are from different parts of the world and that comes with a certain cultural distinction--but I'm not sure what that means as far as the comparison between the two companies. Is the similarity between the two any less strong because Nokia is European and Samsung Korean? I also happen to think that the connection with Motorola is a strong one--this is a market that evolves drastically, or shifts rather, every five to ten years. It's dificult to stay ahead of the curve, but its also difficult to learn the lesson from companies in prior years who have lost their position because just seeing the problem coming doesn't mean one is in the position to avoid it.

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Re: Symbian for Nokia and Smartwatch for Samsung
prabhakar_deosthali   1/27/2014 9:01:31 AM
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Before Nokia came to be known as a phone company, It was a company supplying CRT tubes for TVs. 

When our company launched a TV back in 1992 in India, we were importing 29" CRTs from Nokia for our large size TV models.

As far the comparison between Samsung and Nokia goes , in my opinion each company comes from a different culture , Nokia is a European Company where as Samsung is a Korean company and that definitely differentiates them as far as the thought process, strategy making and forward planning.

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