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Re: Integrating and specializing
junko.yoshida   2/9/2014 3:08:56 PM
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@alex-m1, you shed an interesting light here. Yes, MTK's wearable solution ("Aster") is a multi-die solution. How that might change the SoC narrative is a good story to follow. Thanks for pointing that out. 

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junko.yoshida   2/9/2014 3:06:25 PM
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@daleste, thank you for adding clarity to pros and cons, here.

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alex_m1   2/9/2014 10:50:13 AM
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>> There are many SoC companies out there. Few have memory technologies.... 

Multi-die integration is starting to become interesting. XMOS is selling a mult-die mcu for less than $5 , media tek works on it's new wearable soc using mutiple die tech(and it has a done an impressive multi-die integrated microprocessor for low end phones for $3).

That might change the SoC story.

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daleste   2/8/2014 12:58:48 PM
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It is true that the flash process will add cost to the integrated solution, but the advantages outweigh the added cost.  Having a single die instead of two reduces the system cost and increases the reliability.  It also reduces the footprint required on the circuit board.  The flash will usually be more than half the die so you should think of this as adding logic to a flash chip instead of adding flash to a microcontroller.  The disadvantage is that the feature size of the logic will be lagging the industry in the combined process, so your logic will be larger than it would be on a stand alone chip.  As mentioned, the speed of reading and writing the flash will improve since it does not go off chip.

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krisi   2/7/2014 5:01:02 PM
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I was wondering what is this "dissertation writing service" in the middle of the sentence in that post...

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mikekirschner   2/7/2014 4:48:07 PM
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Time to block this spammer...

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junko.yoshida   2/7/2014 3:09:20 PM
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@resistion, exactly. This is all about the speed of data, travelling between memory and logic.

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resistion   2/7/2014 11:23:20 AM
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It might be faster to read code from on-chip NVM.

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zewde yeraswork   2/7/2014 11:06:20 AM
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I'm not sure that integrated embedded logic chips are the best option. It seems as though keeping them seperate, a flash chip and a logic chip apart from one another, may offer better value. 

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afhmed   2/7/2014 4:24:38 AM
The Fujitsu Semiconductor acquisition in August is paving the way for Spansion's development of new SoCs integrating dissertation writing service Spansion's embedded flash technology with MCU, analog, and power management ICs. 

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