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Re: Obama - Who are you kidding
Pany1989   3/20/2014 10:27:32 AM
Good point!  Have we lost the definition of what an enginner is so quickly that we just toss out names of people who don't seem to fit the bill?  Apparently so.  I mean if I adjust somebody's back or help rub out a sore muscle, does that suddently make me a walnut creek chiropractor?  I think not. 

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Re: Engineers are scientists with economic motives
Sheetal.Pandey   2/25/2014 2:05:58 PM
Mr. Obama definitely started as an Engineer when he was contesting elections. And the engineering spark could be see for few years after winning presidential elections. But is the spark difused from few months.

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Engineers are scientists with economic motives
MClayton200   2/22/2014 3:41:43 PM
Most presidents had economic motives, but did not use scientific methods.  Instead they used crony capitalism or moralizing law-making.   I prefer those that were willing to test old assumptions by experimentation, like Medicare, Social Security and Affordable Care Act, all of which were attacked loudly.  The post WWII veterans were educated by a great experimentalist, FDR, and they got low cost housing and a start on health care for veterans.  That vets health care system WAS modified many times to make it CHEAPER but not better until recent years.  

The famous post-WWII hiway system was designed with long straight streches to land planes in event of attack on US.  It was well engineered, but not maintained in many places due to cost cutting, but worse, the STATE roads really degraded from cost cutting.  The best engineering marvels require long term support, but if the crowd is raving about social issues rather then functional infrastructure we get what we deserve. 

But my feeling is that SCIENCE WILL PREVAIL in the long term, and the moralizers and crony capitalists will leave more debris than working systems that benefit the people.  Leave the social issues to the neighbordhood leaders, and let us improve the higher levels of the country with scientific methods and transparency in financing and procurement methods.  

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Obama As An Engineer
Stargzer   2/21/2014 5:40:52 PM
I used to tell the the joke about the difference between Civil Engineers and Combat Engineers, but then someone reminded me that there are two types of Combat Engineers: one builds bridges and the other blows them up.  Everyone has their own idea of which type of Combat Engineer President Obama is, but I can't see where he's built any substantial bridges in the last five years.   

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Wobbly   2/21/2014 2:06:46 PM
I think the only reason they stuck Obama on the list was to generate controversy, and there by generate traffic and hits. Click bait. And a bunch of you fell for it.


Hello EETimes? Don't turn into CNET. One technology cesspool is all the world needs.

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Re: 7 presidents: 8 pages ?
Wobbly   2/21/2014 2:01:50 PM
The more advertizing they can stream to you. That is the only reason.


For a technology site, its implementation ***** ***** *****. (verb adjective noun, each five letters, make up your own!)

Yeah, I know they need the revenue, but the site is still poorly presented and poorly behaved. This is 2014 now, not 1997. Geocities wants its site back.....

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eccles   2/20/2014 4:27:29 PM
Yes, the damage done to the country by BHO is incalculable. 

On the other hand, engineers know when to avoid meddling 

with a good and proven design, and only chumps think they

can re-engineer an optimal system. So I don't think we can

say this chump passes the test.

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Re: Jimmy Carter
CC VanDorne   2/19/2014 3:58:28 PM
History has already judged them both fairly.  Which is why opinions like yours are in the laughable minority.

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Re: other presidents?
anon9303122   2/18/2014 4:18:45 PM
George W. Bush flew airplanes. That says engineer so much more than coummunity rabble-rouser. #8 destroyed all credibility for this article.

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Re: Seriously?
rich.pell   2/18/2014 11:45:42 AM
"Perhaps it's how a president handled compromise -- after all that is politics: the art of compromise."

And that is perhaps one reason why there are few engineers in politics.  Engineers are more concerned with "what works" while politics is often about debate and compromise over idealogical issues that may or may not "work" at all.  Perfect for lawyer and academic types, but anathema to engineering types...

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