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MeasurementBlues
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Re: Why?
MeasurementBlues   3/6/2014 4:18:46 PM
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I can think of numerous rich engineers who use their money for the good: Bill Gates of course, Bernie Gordon (Analogic) Ray Stata (ADI). there are others.

mr_bandit
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Re: Why?
mr_bandit   3/6/2014 4:04:34 PM
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*Now* we know who to blame .... *and* for the Mars explorer mismatch of units :^)

Not every project is going to change the world. I have been fortunate to have three. But - to be honest - my two primary reasons on the projects were to feed my family and work on something interesting.

But, yes, every good engineer I know wants to change the world for the better. A few even know and get lucky enough to make some serious money.

My opinion: the difference between the greedy $%^& and an engineer that hits it big: the greedy just want more. The rich engineers I know see money as a tool. Perhaps I am just idealistic.

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Re: Why?
MeasurementBlues   3/6/2014 3:26:35 PM
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My undergraduate university has for years stressed the link between technology and society, so much that you are required to complate a year-long project in that area. Mine (1970s) was to develip teaching aids to help elementary school teachers teach the metric system. We developed seminare and gave them at local schools. Unfortunately, all we have to show for that effort is the 2 liter bottle of soda.

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Re: Why?
mr_bandit   3/6/2014 3:18:58 PM
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Our work changes the world. I am in E1 clock sync box that has allowed large parts of the world to communicate. I am in the first telecomm tunable laser for optical communications systems. I am in the testers for Seagate drives.

Hopefully, the stuff we make changes the world by improving lives. Can tech be mis-used? Yes - look at the NSA wiretapping.

Just making money is a greedy endevor. Using money to improve lives is good. Never thought I would praise Uncle Billy, but he is using money to eliminate desieses (sp). Soros is using his for good.

A good example is medical devices - they can be used to save lives.

Helping clean up water that the greedy $%^& have trashed (and which the cops should be arresting them for environmental crimes).

I could go on, but that should suffice.

(Can the wizzards behind the scenes of automatically turn on spelling checks for comment blocks?)

krisi
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Re: Career Options...
krisi   3/6/2014 1:11:53 PM
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good point @betajet...i like "follow the money", that is usually very informative...as Adler said "follow the movement" (the idea being that you should disregard what someone is saying but look at his actions instead)

betajet
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Re: Career Options...
betajet   3/6/2014 1:05:35 PM
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krisi wrote: well, by this logic we can not trust anything... everything comes from managements, politicians, generals, religious leaders, etc

The short answer is "follow your instincts" and "follow the money".  If a claim doesn't seem to add up, it's probably misinformation.  If the claim would enrich the person or organization making the claim, you can pretty well bet that it's beyond misinformation.

krisi
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Re: Career Options...
krisi   3/6/2014 12:24:25 PM
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well, by this logic we can not trust anything....everything comes from managements, politicians, generals, religious leaders, etc

MeasurementBlues
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Re: Career Options...
MeasurementBlues   3/6/2014 10:28:44 AM
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How can you trust any data on an engineering shortage if it comes from management?

krisi
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Re: Career Options...
krisi   3/6/2014 10:05:38 AM
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Shortage usually causes salaries to go up...I am not sure there is a shoratge of engineers, what is teh data behind this statement?

MeasurementBlues
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Re: Why?
MeasurementBlues   3/6/2014 9:46:04 AM
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"Because we have a drive to change the  world"

Change the world how? To make life better for people by solving problems such as environmental, health, food shortages, or just ot make money?

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