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_hm
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Re: Paradox - $25 phone and 3G connection!
_hm   2/25/2014 6:02:55 PM
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So pleasant surprise news to learn that in China and India data rate is so low! Good for them.

Yes, if you add such low data rates and utilize wi-fi hot spot, low cost phone will be cynosure.

 

JimMcGregor
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Re: Paradox - $25 phone and 3G connection!
JimMcGregor   2/25/2014 12:38:14 PM
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Zewede - $25 my not be the optimal price point, but as others have pointed out, there are different markets, networks, consumers, etc. The $500 smartphone and expensive data plasn are not going to meet the needs of many consumers that are not on the leading edge of technology. In fact, without subsidies, the average price of smartphones in the US would likely drop significantly.

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Re: Paradox - $25 phone and 3G connection!
zewde yeraswork   2/25/2014 9:50:49 AM
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This is precisely why I don't see the $25 phone supporting a market for high-speed data and being an option for users of internet on a consistent basis. That market belongs to higher end smartphones.

zewde yeraswork
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Re: Paradox - $25 phone and 3G connection!
zewde yeraswork   2/25/2014 9:46:39 AM
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I agree that the future lies in emerging markets, but there will still be a market within the United States and other more industrialized nations enabling growth and innovation for companies that can then expand the lower-end of their business models abroad in emerging markets.

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Re: Paradox - $25 phone and 3G connection!
JimMcGregor   2/25/2014 9:24:53 AM
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There is no doubt that the business models for the phones and the data will evolve over time and possibly with government support. I think a better way to think about the announcements is that these vendors are targeting lower price points for entry level smartphones for emerging markets where this is likely to be the consumer's first smartphone and only internet device. All too often we think of the billions of smartphones in use in western countries and forget that the majority of future growth will come from emerging markets and consumers that cannot afford the current crop of superphones.

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Re: Paradox - $25 phone and 3G connection!
prabhakar_deosthali   2/25/2014 4:48:18 AM
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As an Indian, I also fully agree with your view that though the Indian customers are using their phones for data services , the revenues earned by Telcos are miniscule.

 

But since many a services in India have now become on-line with mobile support - such as bill payment.  Carrying the railway, bus or movie tickets on mobiles, the data usage is slowly increasing and the Telcos can expect better revenues from their subscribers by usage of more data services.

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Re: Paradox - $25 phone and 3G connection!
GSMD   2/25/2014 3:59:25 AM
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A phone is no longer a phone. A USD 25 phone is the primary data/internet device for lots of people. The easist way to book a railway ticket or a bus ticket is a phone. Hence data is absoluteley mandatory on a $25 phone.


There seems to be wierd misconecptiosn about use of phones in India nd China. Usage these days is very data centric. Except that the data usage is minimal or in case liek FB, data usage is free on some operators. Also most apps that get used are free. Paid content is pretty much music (can be as low as 1.5 cents per clip), ringtones and other low cost content.

So looking at statistics it might appear that data revenue is low and data usage is miniscule.But that does not reflect the reality of even $25 devices being data centric.

I do not pull these figures out of the hat nor are my observations armchair navel pontification ! My drinking buddies inclued two Telco CEOs and all I hear from  is how Indians pay little for so many services ! Between them they have 300 Mill customers. Margins are wafer thin in India but volumes are huge. So get an ARPU increase of USD .5 to 1 is considered a major feat.

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It's strange to specify phone price by chip vendors
Dr. Slump   2/25/2014 1:04:42 AM
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Once any company produce firefox phones and want to sell at some profit (retails price > $25), they will very likely face the question from consumers "They (spreadtrum) said it is $25!!".

Defining the end-product retail price by chip vendors is, IMO, pissing off customers (phone makers). It is very strange because if you don't want your customers making money, why customers will use your chips?

Sheetal.Pandey
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Re: Paradox - $25 phone and 3G connection!
Sheetal.Pandey   2/25/2014 12:11:37 AM
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Actually data plan are very inexpensive in these countries. There are so many players who provide service so the competition is also strong to get customers. Some of the plan I know of are as low as $2 per month and if you are ready to pay $5 per month rental post paid..you can get unlimited internet access. If you are just checking your emails or browse sites or use occassional GPS its very good. And I would be surprised to know if someone says we dont need internet access on smartphone, times is changing so are people. There are few small shopkeepers I have observed they keep chatting on facebook. Internet is for everyone whether rich or poor and trust me with so many service providers in market in these developing countries, everyone can afford internet. And its good for the society and technology.

Gone are the days when someone should feel why developing countrymen need internet access and how can they afford it. 

junko.yoshida
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Re: Paradox - $25 phone and 3G connection!
junko.yoshida   2/24/2014 8:02:18 PM
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@_hm, the cost for data plan widely differs from one country to another, from one operator to another, I believe.

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