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betajet
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Re: Sad
betajet   2/28/2014 7:51:47 PM
daleste wrote: Sad to see IBM having to have such a large layoff.  It has been the company that was the benchmark for not allowing layoffs.

IBM's "full employment practice" was a long, long time ago.  Long ago IBM considered it Good Business and Good Management to have a loyal work force, and realized that you cannot have employees loyal to the company if the company is not loyal to them.  They liked to hire inexperienced people so they could mold them to the IBM Way and liked them to stay with IBM their whole careers.  IBM was careful not to expand in temporary ways that would result in layoffs later.

All this changed in under CEO John Akers (1983-1993), whom Steve Jobs once described as: "smart, eloquent, fantastic salesperson, but he didn't know anything about product."  The "full employment practice" ended and was replaced with black humor:

Q: What's the definition of an Optimist?

A: An IBM employee who, on Sunday, irons five white shirts.


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Where is the vision?
Bert22306   2/28/2014 7:32:54 PM
The amazing part of this is that if you look up IBM's history, they went through transformations many times, surviving the Great Depression, and becoming a dominant player in digital electronic computing. None of this must have been easy, right?

What's so different about now? The first to be fired should be the execs. Just sayin'.

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Re: The New IBM will be in Insurance.
wilber_xbox   2/28/2014 2:29:55 PM
he he...maybe they will put all the wall street guys on the board who will convert this great tech company to only money conscious firm.

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The New IBM will be in Insurance.
BobsView   2/28/2014 1:36:25 PM
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If IBM follows the Sony path, investors will re-engineer them into an Insurance Company. 

It's true, Sony already makes a good return on selling insurance in Japan and other foreign markets.  Investors would like them to drop out of the hardware business and expand on finance.

It's the only place left where outrageous profits can still be had...

 

Anand.Yaligar
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Re: New order ?
Anand.Yaligar   2/28/2014 12:48:41 PM
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I don't see how such managers can lead in reinventing and keep the company on a growth trajectory.

@docdivakar, I totally agree with your observation. I think small technology companies are growing rapidly because people who lead the teams are innovators and not managers.

Anand.Yaligar
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Re: Sad
Anand.Yaligar   2/28/2014 12:43:03 PM
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All that I can offer to them is that they are going into a healthier job market for tech than has been seen for quite a while.

@LarryM99, true job market is showing signs of growth but why do you think companies like IBM, Sony etc are struggling ? Do you think this trend will continue ?

Anand.Yaligar
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Re: New order ?
Anand.Yaligar   2/28/2014 12:31:12 PM
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They have moved from being a hardware company to more of a software provider and that leaves a lot of people out of the loop. 

@zewde, I agree with you. I think the process started when IBM sold its personal computer business (Thinkpad) to lenovo. It would be interesting to know the future strategy of the IBM and whether they would totally want to exit the hardware business.

Anand.Yaligar
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Re: New order ?
Anand.Yaligar   2/28/2014 12:26:04 PM
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Withe the rise of the new IT giants like Google, the old order which was ruling the computer and associated technology world -like IBM, HP , Sony is now looking like  falling apart.

@prabhakar, I totally agree with you. I think it would be very difficult for them to make a turnaround from here on because competition is getting tougher.

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Re: Sad
LarryM99   2/28/2014 12:19:46 PM
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'Institutionalized' is a good term for it. My Mother was a social worker, and she did her Master's thesis on institutionalization in mental hospitals. People become dependent on the specific structure provided by an organization like that. It is so foreign to the way that I think that I have difficulty relating to it, but I recognize that it exists.

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Re: New order ?
docdivakar   2/28/2014 10:37:11 AM
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Prabhakar, you are right in your observation. Companies like HP which prided itself in the "reinvent" campaign did not quite pull it off. I often find the middle management in companies like these (that have gone thru big downsizing) just focus on "managing" and lose touch completely with technology. I don't see how such managers can lead in reinventing and keep the company on a growth trajectory.

MP Divakar

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