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Intel leading
wilber_xbox   3/25/2014 12:20:57 PM
Good to read that Intel is still pushing the boundaries for others to follow. The only concern is Intel's inability to break the ranks of the likes of ARM, Qualcomm etc in mobile and lower power devices. I think that the main reason behind all the problems is Intel's stubborness to share IP/platform with others. Intel must create an ecosystem for others to join and flourish.

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$10 billion to update fabrication facilities below 20nm?
geekmaster   3/25/2014 2:14:05 PM
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I have not read the McKinsey report but according to this article: dropping below 20nm "requires updates in fabrication facilities that could cost more than $10 billion."  But Intel said once that about 80-90% of 20nm equipment is usable at the 14nm node.  Why is the cost in the McKinsey report so high?

 

 

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Any news from bigger chips?
AKH0   3/25/2014 5:03:21 PM
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My understanding is that SerDes is a tiny <1mm2 circuit (A 4-channel, 28Gb/s at 28nm, was 3.34mm2, see LSI's paper at ISSCC'14). While this is a good demo, it does not say anything about yield and performance of microprocessor chips that are two orders of magnitude larger.

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Re: Any news from bigger chips?
_hm   3/25/2014 7:00:27 PM
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@AKHO: Yes, that is correct. It will be nice to see real large scale product in commercial market. This will test the yield and other hidden cost. But Intel should soon bring out some good product.

 

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What does it prove
resistion   3/25/2014 10:27:30 PM
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The demo only proves that Intel has a 14 nm process ready. It does not yet convince this process does not suffer significantly from the highlighted cost of increased amount of double patterning. We need the disclosure of how many layers require double patterning for example. It is likely more than for 22 nm. If not much more, then maybe it can be said to be advantageous for Intel.

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"Intel CEO Bob Krzanich"
horta1212   3/26/2014 2:27:18 PM
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Just a heads up. Intel doesn't have a CEO named Bob. It's Brian.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Brian_Krzanich

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Re: "Intel CEO Bob Krzanich"
Susan Rambo   3/26/2014 3:05:59 PM
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Thanks @horta1212, we corrected the error, which we regret we had not caught in  proofreading process.  Thanks.

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Re: Intel leading
AZskibum   3/27/2014 4:34:11 AM
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Nice to hear that reports of the demise of Moore's Law are greatly exaggerated.



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