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sprite0022
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Re: The Italian govt is leaning on STM now
sprite0022   4/1/2014 11:43:16 PM
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I would say you can contact with Marcello Lippi for consultation.

great example by himself.

sprite0022
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Re: The Italian govt is leaning on STM now
sprite0022   4/1/2014 11:40:20 PM
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the best way to revenge and release your emotion is to join the competitors...

 

the chinese can well afford 1k -2k euro/month salary.

 

you all can design the best techs there and prove yourself to the rest of world.

 

if anyone interested drop me an email , i ll see if i can hook you up with someone.

sprite0022
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Re: The Italian govt is leaning on STM now
sprite0022   4/1/2014 11:31:34 PM
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truly sad for italian friends.

btw, can you send a representative to china to see if any chance the chinese will hire you all?

many ex-qimonda professionals are now happily part of china's memory enterprise.

there are even italians as well already happily working in china.

 

NAND_analyst
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The Italian govt is leaning on STM now
NAND_analyst   3/28/2014 11:37:30 PM
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Cf the article below. The Italian govt is now saying that STM should take responsibility for the 419 researchers that Micron wants to lay off, since the problem originated with them.

Micron PeopleThe Italian government is calling in STMicroelectronics to take responsibility for the 419 researchers which Micron Technology of Idaho is trying to sack in Italy.  Micron wants to sack  40% of its Italian workforce. as part of a 5% global workforce reduction.

A meeting will be held in Rome on April 1st at the Italian Ministry of Labour at which ST may be forced to accept responsibility for the situation which started back in 2007 when ST decided to exit the flash memory business by putting its memory operation into the Numonyx joint venture with Intel.
- See more at: http://www.electronicsweekly.com/news/business/responsibility-sacked-micron-workers-falls-st-2014-03/#sthash.CNz2LVL7.uAMyd5Gu.dpuf

http://www.electronicsweekly.com/news/business/responsibility-sacked-micron-workers-falls-st-2014-03/

 
Responsibility for sacked Micron workers falls on ST - See more at: http://www.electronicsweekly.com/news/business/responsibility-sacked-micron-workers-falls-st-2014-03/#sthash.CNz2LVL7.uAMyd5Gu.dpuf
Responsibility for sacked Micron workers falls on ST - See more at: http://www.electronicsweekly.com/news/business/responsibility-sacked-micron-workers-falls-st-2014-03/#sthash.CNz2LVL7.uAMyd5Gu.dpuf
Responsibility for sacked Micron workers falls on ST - See more at: http://www.electronicsweekly.com/news/business/responsibility-sacked-micron-workers-falls-st-2014-03/#sthash.CNz2LVL7.uAMyd5Gu.dpuf


Jimmy59
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Re: It is a NOR plant, for heaven's sake!
Jimmy59   3/27/2014 6:35:14 PM
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Ok, I'll do my best on this side too.

jim221123
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Re: It is a NOR plant, for heaven's sake!
jim221123   3/27/2014 4:16:52 PM
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man, u cant even afford 500 e home loan , that's truely sad. but could u extend your vision to china and lend a hand to the also abused chinese workers who are treated like slaves, their most basic right of switchinf job has been violated.by signing such monopoly treaty. most chinese workers are iliterate and dont know how to express(that's why commis exists). its sad and a shame if the intl EE community turn a blind eye to such activity. even for you. please forward this information to the tech writers you know and show your stand. you r truely a man of judgement and moral instead of just some cold blood selfish whining for your own loss. to verify such info is easy, just call any of samsung 's hunters. junko, r u rdy to chime in as well?

Jimmy59
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Re: Micron's Jobs Butchery in Italy
Jimmy59   3/27/2014 3:26:20 PM
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Very good analysis, I agree almost on everything. About PCM to be developed/produced in Boise: time will say whether this has been a good choice: PCM projects are now stopped for Tech problems. My opinion is that Micron "core" (Boise) is not equipped to develop critical Technologies and Products, maily for its big push to production and limit to R&D role.

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Re: It is a NOR plant, for heaven's sake!
Jimmy59   3/27/2014 3:19:18 PM
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 Good question, but it could be reversed: why did Micron base its 2010 industrial plan on the acquisition of a NOR memory maker as Numonys (except the research-level PCM Tech), resulting in the great success that we know?  NOR market is maybe dying, but still remunerative, especially in the Automotive sector.

About the "warrants": after 27 years at STM etc. I will gain an unemployment salary of monthly ~800e (after tax) for 3 years.... Considering I'm paying ~500e monthly for my home lone, you can now be aware of what's an italian unemployment "warranty". 

mifb
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Re: Micron's Jobs Butchery in Italy
mifb   3/27/2014 11:50:00 AM
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These job cuts are very sad, I agree.

However, they were foreseeable and will not be the last. When an overall job cut of less than 5% reduction results in 40% reduction in Italy, the future is more or less clear...

And why should Micron do R&E for PCM in Agreate instead of Boise?

Obviously the European memory strategy was not the best. ST first cooperated with Hynix until they learned to do chip design by their own. Then the merger with the NOR flash business of Intel to form Numonyx. These steps were all in contradiction to sustainable conservation of a semiconductor memory business and knowledge in Europe.

A merger/collaboration with the Infineon/Qimonda momory part and real subventions and backup from Brussels would have been the right steps in 2005-2007.

Memory devolopment in Europe is a phase-out model for a least five years now!

jim221123
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Re: It is a NOR plant, for heaven's sake!
jim221123   3/27/2014 8:17:53 AM
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micron's facility in xi'an china recently signed an agreement with local samsung in which samsung will not hire any employee from micron xian. this is truely innovative and abused the right of chinese workers. although americans critisize the chinese govt for humanright records but they never hesitite if they could take advantage by themselves.

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