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Duane Benson
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Significance
Duane Benson   3/27/2014 2:53:27 PM
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If we are, in fact, alone in this universe, there are two ways to look at it. First, the way you concluded: "it would behoove us to take good care of each other and of the planet we call home"

From another perspective, in all of those trillions of stars out there, if we are alone, then we are such a small component of the whole as to be completely insignificant. We are a tiny spec of dust to brushed off and never thought of again.

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Max The Magnificent   3/27/2014 3:00:27 PM
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@Duane: We are a tiny spec of dust to brushed off and never thought of again.

If you are trying to cheer me up, you aren't succeeding :-)

It's amazing to think that we are all formed from star dust.

My mother always used to tell me I was "special" (i took it as a complement :-)

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Duane Benson   3/27/2014 6:37:15 PM
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Don't panic

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Ja, wir hab' kein Bananen
betajet   3/27/2014 7:49:47 PM
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I don't know the source for this one: "Either we're alone in the universe or we aren't. Either possibility is mind-boggling."

Personally, I like the theory that we're a bunch of tiny Whos or mere 3-dimensional creatures who are incapable of understanding what's really going on.  We may also have a ridiculously fast sense of time, and the Elder Gods or whatever work on such a long time scale that nobody around here can tell that things like the speed of light are very slowly changing.

I also like the theory suggested by Anne Elk at Daily Kos: "Watching the dominant species self-destruct on planet after planet may be God's version of Breaking Bad."

[Subject line is obscure reference to Billy Wilder's One Two Three (1961).]

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30,000 lbs of Bananas
antedeluvian   3/28/2014 8:59:25 AM
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The topic reminded of the Harry Chapin song (which I only discovered recently) "30,000 lbs of bananas". Seems there is quite a story behind the ending.

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Max The Magnificent   3/28/2014 10:00:32 AM
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@Duane: Don't panic

I want a towel that says that!

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Re: Ja, wir hab' kein Bananen
Max The Magnificent   3/28/2014 10:02:01 AM
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@betajet: I don't know the source for this one: "Either we're alone in the universe or we aren't. Either possibility is mind-boggling."

I've heard that one -- I don't know who said it either -- but it is mind-boggling.

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Max The Magnificent   3/28/2014 10:03:19 AM
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@betajet: ...nobody around here can tell that things like the speed of light are very slowly changing.

Interestingly enough, there are suggestions that some of what we believe to be fundamental constants may be changing over time.

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Re: 30,000 lbs of Bananas
Max The Magnificent   3/28/2014 10:09:07 AM
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@antedeluvian: The topic reminded of the Harry Chapin song "30,000 Bananas"...

You never fail to surprise me (I'm not saying whether I mean that in a good way, or not... LOL)

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Re: Ja, wir hab' kein Bananen
betajet   3/28/2014 2:18:46 PM
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There's a great book by physicist João Magueijo called Faster than the Speed of Light (2003), which proposes that considering C to be a slowly-changing variable rather than a constant solves a number of cosmological questions.  The book also tells you what a "cosmological question" is.  Faster is written for non-physicists and includes how the author got into theoretical physics in the first place, what he was doing when he got his flash of insight, and is a marvelous exposé of modern academia -- especially the sciences.  Those parts are hilarious and depressing at the same time.

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