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stroydex
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Re: Emphasis on Huawei itself is misplaced
stroydex   4/11/2014 3:21:03 AM
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Yes, all the nutjobs now think there is moral parity between a regime that uses its spying apparatus for internal repression, industrial espionage, and certainly now towards the ends of aggressive and revanchist foreign policy on the neighboring seas, vs the NSA which is justifiably trying to ascertain whether Huawei is a key instrument in all those areas.

And when Snowden made these parallel claims that the NSA was into the industrial espionage game, it sure seemed like something he just pulled out of the air just because he thought he could get away with it.

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Re: Emphasis on Huawei itself is misplaced
Bert22306   4/10/2014 6:24:20 PM
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Corporations are not more trustable, most likely, but at least there is some recourse. If they do something illegal or ethically questionable, they can be sued and fined.

In the case in point, no amount of PR from Huawei comes across as convincing. Because what concerns people is not in Huawei's control. It's instead the Chinese government, and we certainly haven't heard anything from them on this matter, right?

If there's a slight glimmer of hope that such uncontrolled spying on individuals can be brought to light in the US, and create a huge stink, I'm afraid that even such slight glimmer of hope does not exist under many regimes around the world.

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Re: Emphasis on Huawei itself is misplaced
Duane Benson   4/10/2014 5:05:11 PM
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"...involvement of the Chinese government with Huawei..."

Maybe, it's just governments in general that are the problem. We have to have them and I personally very much prefer my goverment over others, but all government is inherently at risk of abuse and should never be blndly trusted.

On the other hand - are corporations any more trustable? Microsoft, Steam, Apple and many others are essentially working toward an end that will allow them, if the so desire, to completely dictate how and when we can use the stuff we give them money for.

Somedays I miss my simple pencil.

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Emphasis on Huawei itself is misplaced
Bert22306   4/10/2014 4:35:06 PM
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I think the main point is missed here. The problem, even if we say "perceived problem," is the involvement of the Chinese government with Huawei, not Huawei itself. It is that Chinese government cyberespionnage may be making use of Huawei products.

And certainly yes, the fact that the NSA is playing similar games with US companies is a perfectly valid point. But it does not invalidate the concern over Huawei. If anything, it reinforces the point.

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