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Etmax
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Re: prior art
Etmax   4/19/2014 4:18:31 AM
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The slide switch predates my life in electronics. Having a virtual slide switch on a screen is still a slide switch, just like changing the colour of the plastic on a mechanical one doesn't change the patent that applies. And to say that it's worth $30 per phone is even more ridiculous, you can buy them for as little 10c. The US patent system is worse than broken, I think the overworked clerks don't give a brass razoo anymore and are just stamping everything.

It this sort of rubbish is the great Apple innovation then they are totally not innovators.

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Prior art and innovation
DrQuine   4/18/2014 2:24:08 PM
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I'm impressed by novel inventions that are obvious as soon as I see them. "I should have invented that." With the benefit of hindsight, one can reassemble many inventions from previous components. The patent office has to tread a delicate line between using 20-20 hindsight unfairly - and blocking patents which really were anticipated.  I guess we can all agree that patent 6368227 for swinging sideways on a child's swing should have been invalidated (as it was). Many of us were doing that decades before the patent filing.

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Re: How many "new ideas" are old ideas that have been forgotten?
AZskibum   4/17/2014 10:45:30 AM
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The U.S. patent system is indeed broken. It is not simply a matter of forgotten old ideas being rediscovered and re-patented. It is also broken by having set the bar so low on what constitutes "invention", that almost anything is patentable. If the reverse were true, we would have a lot fewer lawsuits clogging our courts.

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Re: prior art
zeeglen   4/16/2014 7:49:51 PM
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There was a fun pix going around of a medieval door with an iron bolt lock and a caption "We totally invented slide-to-unloock."

Would you have a link to that pix?


The first time I ran into the Apple "slide" function I thought "What a useless piece of crap."


After a few more experiences with the damn thing I upgraded "crap" to a bovine by-product.


rick merritt
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Re: prior art
rick merritt   4/16/2014 6:25:59 PM
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@Daniel Payne: There was a fun pix going around of a medieval door with an iron bolt lock and a caption "We totally invented slide-to-unlock."

betajet
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How many "new ideas" are old ideas that have been forgotten?
betajet   4/16/2014 4:06:31 PM
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Bob wrote: It could be said, "Old ideas never die. They just fade away."

The USPTO situation reminds me of the 1970's TV show Welcome Back, Kotter.  In one episode, Arnold Horshack becomes a member of a religious cult and quotes the cult's leader:
"What is, is.  What was, will be.  What will be was, but will be again".


bobbytsai
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Re: DOS rides again
bobbytsai   4/16/2014 1:43:44 PM
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sounds like a plot to a movie "tron"

BobsView
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Old Soldiers Never Die....
BobsView   4/16/2014 1:18:44 PM
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It could be said, "Old ideas never die. They just fade away."

 

Daniel Payne
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prior art
Daniel Payne   4/16/2014 11:55:38 AM
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I hope that the judge and jury see how many prior art examples there are in everything that Apple claims is patented. Our patent system is truly broken if any company can claim a patent on the hyperlink, or slide to unlock. 

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Re: DOS rides again
boblespam   4/16/2014 2:18:25 AM
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I remember Sidekick running on my 80286 ! A nice piece of software, I liked it (with PC-tools).

I can say that I had smartphone before all those geeks of today. A ~10Kg smartphone with a 9600 baud modem (and a few wires) !

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