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Some Guy
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Re: Unlocking lessons
Some Guy   4/21/2014 6:16:38 PM
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@Bert -

The computer industry was rife with examples of patent litigation in its earlier decades until the judiciary got sick of the collosal waste of resources and made the litigants cross-license each others patents. It has had some interesting side effects, like Intel being forced to buy DEC because of the Alpha patents. I look forward to the day when that solution gets applied to phones. Until then everyone on every side is beefing up their patent portfolios for the coming slugfest.

rick merritt
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Re: Unlocking lessons
rick merritt   4/20/2014 9:47:00 PM
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@jdesbonnet: This sounds both painful and all too true!

J. D.
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lessons learned
J. D.   4/20/2014 1:36:47 PM
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lesson i might learn is ...

if You're going to out-source Your Technology,

(and it's Good, leading edge Technolgy) ...

expect the Company You out-sourced to ...

to probably begin making products similiar

to Yours!!!

- since Your Making a Good Leading Edge Product - right (?).

 

rich.pell
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Re: Judge and Jury is king
rich.pell   4/19/2014 9:47:26 AM
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"Its amazing to see how lawyers and people who have not engineered these phones debate on technical issues."

Not amazing at all.  Lawyers can debate on any issue - technical or not.  It's what they are paid to do.  And unlike engineering - where success is a function of objective facts, real understanding, and logical reasoning - "debate" is primarily about the art of persuasion.

rich.pell
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Re: Unlocking lessons
rich.pell   4/19/2014 9:02:22 AM
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"Actually, here is one car-related example. Not a very uplifting story, eh?"

The movie Flash of Genius (2008, starring Greg Kinnear) was based on this story.

_hm
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Re: Judge and Jury is king
_hm   4/19/2014 8:01:04 AM
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@Sheetal: Yes, prominent lawyer are creme de la creme of erudite students. It is common to find people after their professional education in medicine, engineering and other discipline trun to become lawyer. Sometime they also have very good professional experience in their respective technical branch.

It needs very high credential to be a lawyer and these lawyers when were kids are almost like nerds with Gift of Gab.

 They also earn very high do.

 

Sheetal.Pandey
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Re: Judge and Jury is king
Sheetal.Pandey   4/19/2014 7:36:46 AM
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Its amazing to see how lawyers and people who have not engineered these phones debate on technical issues. May be many of these lawyers either have done engineering or would have interest in technical stuff.

_hm
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Judge and Jury is king
_hm   4/18/2014 6:35:01 PM
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This will be learning curve for one and all. It will depend on judge and jury, and sometime other extraneous factors.

As we have seen earlier, judge do differ in their opinion from country to country.

 

junko.yoshida
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Re: Unlocking lessons
junko.yoshida   4/18/2014 5:53:22 PM
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@Bert, thanks for the link to the Washington Post story. Man, this was such a depressing story to read. 

Speaking of legal entanglements, based on some conversation I had with a lawyer in the Bay area, my understanding is that more mature the industry gets, fewer incidents we see among the industry players getting into legal fights. It's largely because they tend to get into more cross licensing deals. 

We have certainly seen that happening among consumer electronics manufacturers. You name it, almost all the who's who in that industry have already entered into some sort of cross licensing agreements. 

I am not sure about the automotive industry.

But I bet the mobile industry will sooner or later find themselves much more productive, once they get into cross licensing. 

Bert22306
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Bert22306   4/18/2014 5:05:50 PM
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I don't understand why Samsung isn't going on the offensive here, or is this just not being reported?

Speaking of "unlocking." Has anyone seen anything analogous to this in the auto industry? For example, do car companies sue one another because someone at some point "stole" the key fob concept? How many makes of cars out there today don't use key fobs? Or for that matter, windshield washers?

Perhaps this goes on a lot, but it seems too trivial to make the news.

Actually, here is one car-related example. Not a very uplifting story, eh?

http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/articles/A54564-2005Feb25.html

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