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Etmax
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Re: What are the problem?
Etmax   5/5/2014 1:16:22 PM
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That's interesting, thanks. My sister said that her S4 (or S3, she changes her phone so often) was much better in that regard.

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Re: What are the problem?
AZskibum   5/5/2014 10:43:40 AM
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Shutter lag is annoying on most Android phone cameras I've tried, and not only in low light conditions.

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Re: Huh?
TanjB   4/30/2014 11:48:15 AM
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Also the anti-shake matters.  Reviewing phone cameras with a classic camera mindset (on a tripod) is not going to get it right, because they are different in use and somewhat different in purpose.  The phone camera's job is to be all purpose, always competent, always there, need no accessories, and be forgotten in your pocket.

It is amazing how much cellcams have improved.  Last year I took both an Olympus 4/3 kit and a Nokia 1020 on vacation.  There were a few cases where the kit cam was useful, but most of the time the 1020 delivered fine, detailed and vibrant images.  It worked in low light, it gave my zoom lenses good competition.  Using the 1020 you come to realize that the design is holistic.  The pixel detail makes sense not only because they have diffraction limited optics, but because the stabilization (where they stabilize the whole module, like a miniature steadycam) means that you get full use without a tripod.  Even in the dark: when I looked at the information I found I had some shots inside a cave at 1/4 sec.  You don't get the 40Mpix of course, but still good captures of the moment.

There are still things that can improve, and they will.  Phone cams will set a baseline for imaging everywhere, all the time, which is tough to beat.

Etmax
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Re: Huh?
Etmax   4/30/2014 6:45:13 AM
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A few years ago we had a treasurer called Costello and a health minister called Abbott.

That made for some funny remarks. :-)

Etmax
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Re: What are the problem?
Etmax   4/30/2014 6:43:47 AM
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@Bert, my sister bougth an S5 and her complaint is that in lower light conditions it takes forever before you can take a picture. That would certainly annoy me. If I have a snpshot camera I want to be able to take snapshots quickly before the moment is past.


Resolution is already way better than needed for a camera IMO.

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Re: Huh?
waaromikke   4/30/2014 6:01:23 AM
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IF the sensor is the limiting factor, then increasing sensor resolution gives you better pictures. But I assume in a smartphone camera other things limit the resolution; the lens, the aperture (causing flare), etc.

I would rather have larger pixels that can accumulate more charge  and therehy offer less noise & more dynamic range.

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Re: What are the problem?
wilber_xbox   4/30/2014 1:14:17 AM
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So, its a bug that went unnoticed. This is for sure not good for Galaxy overall as sales are dropping and Apple is pushing iPhones by giving exchange coupons on old smartphones and cashback for the purchase of latest 5c. 

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Re: What are the problem?
Bert22306   4/29/2014 7:07:25 PM
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Apparently, in a few of the smartphones, the camera app crashes, gives an error message, and it can't be restarted.

http://www.informationweek.com/mobile/mobile-devices/galaxy-s5-camera-problem-samsung-eats-crow/d/d-id/1234898

But I would hardly call this "egg on their face." I was expecting to read that the camera which is better than the iPhone's was infringing on some other supposed patent, or that the pixel count was actually less than the iPhone's, but no. This is a bug, and they've isued a recall.

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What are the problem?
AZskibum   4/29/2014 4:02:26 PM
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I find it odd that I read this story and still don't know why these Galaxy S5s are being recalled. What sort of camera problems do they have?

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Dan Glass   4/29/2014 2:35:23 PM
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This is yet another case of marketing and engineering having different definitions for the same word.  Unfortunately, we can't go to the lawyers to arbitrate this difference of option because they use yet another understanding of the word.  A fine mess that would make... 

I wonder, would it look more like Abbott & Costello, or the Marx Brothers?

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