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Rcurl
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Get out the drill bit!
Rcurl   5/12/2014 3:37:22 PM
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Ahhhh! Electrical stimulation is for Wimps! To properly stimulate the brain takes more mechanical than electrical stimulation. Look here: http://www.noah.org/trepan/people_with_holes_in_their_heads.html

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Re: Get out the drill bit!
Max The Magnificent   5/12/2014 3:45:54 PM
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@rcurl: To properly stimulate the brain takes more mechanical than electrical stimulation. Look here...

O M G is all I can say...

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It's easy to do...
antedeluvian   5/12/2014 4:08:28 PM
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Max

I recently bought myself a TENS machine to help keep my back in order. I have a disk that keeps slipping out of the top ten. As Mad magazine said, you know you are getting old when your back goes out more than you do.

Anyway there is some cautionary wording not to apply this across the base of your neck as it could interfere with the nervous system. It didn't seem to occur to them that someone could use it on their brain. There is also a warning that the unit can only be used by qualifed medical personnel- shows you how good the warnings are.

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Max The Magnificent   5/12/2014 4:16:42 PM
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@Antedeluvian: I recently bought myself a TENS machine to help keep my back in order.

I've heard that a lot of people find these to be very efficacious -- I'd be interested to hear your thoughts -- how well does it work?

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antedeluvian   5/12/2014 4:39:53 PM
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Max

I've heard that a lot of people find these to be very efficacious -- I'd be interested to hear your thoughts -- how well does it work?

I guess it depends on your problem and your body. As withh all things medical YMMV. My chiropractor remarked that I always responded well to interferential treatment (not strictly speaking TENS) and that I shuld perhaps get myself a machine. Ones that include the interefrerential are not quite as common, but I did manage to find a few.

There are 40 "modes" on the machine. Only 4 are interferential and it is possible to adjust both the frequency and the intensity. I am not quite sure as to which is the best, but hey I am not paying for the time, so i run it over 3 or 4 interferential modes for an hour or so. It certainly helps me and is sometimes even soporific. Maybe it is just psychosomatic, but it works for me. The whole thing is portable, so I can stick it on and wonder around or simply lounge in front of the TV and even doze off.

 

I should add that I have even bought an inversion table, but it didn't seem to help at all.

 

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brain is a terrible thing to waste
Stargzer   5/12/2014 5:31:31 PM
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"All I can say is that a brain is a terrible thing to waste."

A waist is a terrible thing to mind!

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Re: Get out the drill bit!
bpaddock   5/15/2014 9:46:57 AM
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I wrote this about Trepanning years ago, before we figured out my wife's problem was a cerebrospinalspinal fluid (CSF) leak.


 I just read TREAPANN. YIKES! Don't anyone do this! It is *NOT* needed!

 Obviously Dr. Bart did NOT do his home work, such as Dr. William G. Sutherland in 1939, yes 39.

 T> Babies are born with skulls unsealed, and it is not until one is
 T> an adult that the bony carapace is formed which completely encloses the
 T> membranes.

 "Modern Medicine", the one that can't seem to figure out a simple chronic pain problem with my wife says that the Skull bones become one calcified unit some time in our teens.

 Sutherland's premise is that the bones are distinct, and must be free to move for proper health. The movement is only on the order of millimeters, but movement none the less.

 To prove his premise Sutherland took a foot ball helmet and drilled holes in it (Not his head!!!) applied some bolts and thumb screws ect. This allowed him to adjust the pressure on the cranial bones at various pressures and angles. His wife documented his shifts in behavior, as things were fiddled with.

 The medical community largely does not accept Sutherland's work. However a Dr. John E. Upledger, D.O., F.A.A.O independently discovered, in 1974, something related called the Craniosacral System.

 The Craniosacral System is the Dural tube that lines the spine and the inside of the brain. You've all heard of Spinal Fluid, but did you ever stop to think what this Fluid was held in, Where it came from, How it was replaced, How it circulated? Upledger answers all of these questions.

 According to Upledger a dysfunction any place in the Cranioscral System can cause any type of symptom. Anything from skin rashes to Ceribral Palsy, dyslexia, Hyperactivity, ect. Upledger claims a 50% success rate in the treatment of some of the "Incurable" problems of our time.

 The treatment is simple external manipulation of the C.System, Cranial Bones ect.

 There are people all over the world certified to do this. In the Dallas area alone there are over 50 people listed as certified in at least Level-I (There are many aspects to Upledger treatments).

 While nothing is ever a cure-all, Upledger's work is well documented, and independently verified.

 The laymen introduction is "Your Inner Physician and You: CranioSacral Therapy. Somato-Emotional Release" by John E. Upledger D.O., O.M.M ISBN 1- 55643-148-1.

 The doctor's book, with lots of nice drawings and X-Rays, that I can even understand, is "Craniosacral Therapy" by John E. Upledger, D.O., F.A.A.O & Joh D. Vredevoogd, M.F.A. ISBN 0-939616-01-7.

 There is a second volume that I've not yet seen "Beyond The Dura Mater".

  My wife is undergoing treatment now [when I wrote this long ago] to see if it helps with her pain problem. She said she feels much more relaxed for days after a treatment. So far not much in the way of pain relief for her problem.

 Another important book is the "The Egoscue Method of Health Through Motion" by Pete Egoscue, ISBN 0-06-092430-6. If you want to stay healthy do what the this books says, if you want to get well do what this book says.

 The *STRUCTURE* of the body is far more important than most realize. The so called M.D.'s of our time only look at the biochemical aspects. A bad structure, like bad posture, can have bizarre biochemical ramifications.

 All of these are external treatments and/or exercises with no drilling necessary.....

http://www.kpaddock.com/trepann2.htm

 

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Brain 'Chaos' and Chaotic Attractors
bpaddock   5/15/2014 9:57:08 AM
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Max, if you want to have some real fun apply your usual diligence to find how the brain uses 'Chaos' and Chaotic Attractors to do what it does.

Far to often we see this as 'noise' to be gotten rid of instead of something to learn from and apply.

Look up the user group Mind-L on Yahoo Groups, one of the oldest places on Internet dealing with this stuff, to see just how deep the rabbit hole goes.
Most of the Interesting Stuff is in the archives, as today most of it is 'old news' to these people and the list is not that active any more.

 

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Re: Get out the drill bit!
Max The Magnificent   5/15/2014 10:07:23 AM
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@bpaddock: My wife is undergoing treatment now [when I wrote this long ago] to see if it helps with her pain problem. She said she feels much more relaxed for days after a treatment. So far not much in the way of pain relief for her problem.

How did your wife do in the longer term?

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Re: Brain 'Chaos' and Chaotic Attractors
Max The Magnificent   5/15/2014 10:10:10 AM
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@bpaddock: ...if you want to have some real fun apply your usual diligence to find how the brain uses 'Chaos' and Chaotic Attractors to do what it does.

I've been seeing this topic pop up here-and-there quite a lot over the past few years. The main thing I get from this is to reaffirm that the brain is an astounding incredible fantastical beautiful wonderful thing (and I'm so glad I have one)

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