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Max The Magnificent
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Re: Humpty Dumpty
Max The Magnificent   6/9/2014 4:04:39 PM
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@Antedeluvian: ...anything I work on is an embedded system, because I chose to call it that.

What about the history part -- when did people start using the term "embedded" -- I know you were there at the time LOL

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Re: Humpty Dumpty
Max The Magnificent   6/9/2014 4:03:26 PM
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@Antedeluvian: ...anything I work on is an embedded system, because I chose to call it that.

Well, it's hard to argue with logic like that.

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Humpty Dumpty
antedeluvian   6/9/2014 3:58:39 PM
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Max

I am reminded of this quote from Lewis Caroll

"When I use a word,' Humpty Dumpty said in rather a scornful tone, 'it means just what I choose it to mean — neither more nor less.'


Similarly- anything I work on is an embedded system, because I chose to call it that.

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Re: embedded system definition
betajet   6/9/2014 3:42:33 PM
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Max asked: Is a smartphone an embedded system? It's not exactly dedicated to anything, but it's also not a PC...

Actually, IMO a smart phone is a PC.  Yes, it has a ridiculously tiny screen (though better resolution and more colors than an Osborne 1) and limits what devices it lets you talk to, but those are details.  Take a look at the Motorola Atrix smart phone, which you could plug into an Atrix Lapdock which then converted your phone into a laptop computer, using the phone to provide cellular data networking.

A "feature phone" that does not allow you to add your own programs is an embedded system.  As soon as you can start running your own programs (or those purchased from 3rd parties), it's pretty much the same functionality as a PC.

Is a tablet a PC?  Aren't most tablets just smart phones in a larger, easier-to-design package, with the voice communications module deleted?

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Re: embedded system definition
Max The Magnificent   6/9/2014 3:20:32 PM
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@Betajet: "Designing embedded systems is a profession that's impossible to explain to your mother."

I LOVE IT -- maybe that's the definition of an embedded system -- an electronic system that's impossible to explain to your mother.

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Re: It's all blurry in here
Max The Magnificent   6/9/2014 3:19:06 PM
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@Duane: When none of the devices can stand alone, but they make up a computer as a collection, is that embedded computing, distributed computing, or something else?

Hey, I'm the one who is asking the questions LOL

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Re: embedded system definition
Max The Magnificent   6/9/2014 3:17:35 PM
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@dmandell: ...I guess a  "dedicated non-pc computer" would cover most bases...

Is a smartphone an embedded system? It's not exactly dedicated to anything, but it's also not a PC...

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Re: embedded system definition
betajet   6/9/2014 3:15:25 PM
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How about this?  "An embedded system is a product that uses a computer to provide its functionality by running a single program loaded into it by the manufacturer.  Even though an embedded system contains a computer, you can't run your own program on it."

Unless your want to hack it, of course... whoops, this is my floor.

I forget who said this: "Designing embedded systems is a profession that's impossible to explain to your mother."

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It's all blurry in here
Duane Benson   6/9/2014 3:02:15 PM
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I'm not sure the term has much life left in it. The problem is that lines all over the place are blurring.

Embedded systems used to be about control of things. But what happens when the device just has an internet connection and all of the control takes place in the cloud, or on a phone?

With the Internet of things, soon just about everything will have some associated computing power. But, again, is it an embedded computer, or just an embedded communications link?

When none of the devices can stand alone, but they make up a computer as a collection, is that embedded computing, distributed computing, or something else?

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Re: embedded system definition
dmandell   6/9/2014 3:00:19 PM
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therein lies the challenge! I guess a  "dedicated non-pc computer" would cover most bases, as it implies a processor

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