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betajet
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betajet   6/23/2014 3:35:24 PM
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How much is the term ASSP = Application-Specific Standard Part actually used?  Until today, I though it stood for Application-Specific Signal Processor :-)  I've looked at any number of data sheets for complex chips like the SMSC LAN9512 USB hub with Ethernet, and they don't seem to need the term.  I would think that any non-customized chip you can buy from a vendor is by default one of their standard parts, so you only need an additional term like ASIC if it's customer-specific.

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Max The Magnificent   6/23/2014 3:38:44 PM
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@betajet: How much is the term ASSP = Application-Specific Standard Part actually used?

I think it depends on one's audience. I'm reasonably confidant that my mother and her friends don't use it at all. By comparrison, I would say that a large number of the people with whom I rub shoulders on a daily basis use it very commonly indeed.

I'd be interested to hear what others have to say about this.

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Wnderer   6/23/2014 4:00:09 PM
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It seems backwards to me that I read documents coded in acronyms and write code documented with LongVariableNames.

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kfield   6/23/2014 4:04:20 PM
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I am still having trouble over the definition of embedded. :-)

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Max The Magnificent   6/23/2014 4:09:47 PM
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@Wnderer: I read documents coded in acronyms and write code documented with LongVariableNames.

Think yourself lucky -- I remember the days when you could only use 8-character variable names and the characters all had to be letters or numbers or underscores and you couldn't start with a number -- and we considered ourselves to be lucky!!!

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Max The Magnificent   6/23/2014 4:13:32 PM
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@kfield: I am still having trouble over the definition of embedded. :-)

Fear not Oh leader of men (and boys) ... legendary embedded guru Jack Ganssle and yours truly are going to be having a debate about this very topic in a live "Radio Show" starting at 2:00pm Eastern on Friday 11th July -- after we've talked for 30 minutes, everyone else will be able to join us in an online chat. I'll be posting a blog about this in a day or so when it's all set up in the system. 

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AndrewAPTemple   6/23/2014 4:32:45 PM
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An entire debate? Is the definition of embedded in the context of embedded systems that heavily varied? If it's not a relatively specialized, computerized system that is often embedded in a bigger system, then I have been misleading a lot of people over the years. 

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Wnderer   6/23/2014 4:34:45 PM
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@kfield: I am still having trouble over the definition of embedded. :-)

It's easy. I'll use it in a sentence.

Embedded by 10 and emup by 6.


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Max The Magnificent   6/23/2014 4:38:13 PM
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@Andrew: Is the definition of embedded in the context of embedded systems that heavily varied?

Oh to be young and innocent once again. If the definition were so simple, then experianced engineers wouldn't have so much trouble saying "This is definatly an embedded system while that certainly isn't."

So, we'll be seeing you at the chat on Friday 11th July, right? LOL

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Garcia-Lasheras   6/23/2014 4:39:31 PM
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@Max: "live "Radio Show" starting at 2:00pm Eastern on Friday 11th July"

Interesting topic and even more interesting hosts ;-)

I'll be there waiting for you with my white trousers & shirt and my red scarf & "belt": Sanfermin time at Navarra again!!

Remember: No bull!! | EETimes  LOL



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