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Measurement.Blues
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Re: HP or Lenovo
Measurement.Blues   7/15/2014 11:49:11 AM
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So here's an annoying thing about these new laptops: You have to open the lid and push the button to turn them on. My old Dells have docking stations with power buttons and I even have a shelf with a power button. My Lenovo office latop also has a docking station with a power button. Not so for HP and I suspect, many nere laptops. To turn it on I have to open the lid and push the button. I was at the store where I bought it yesterday and asked about a docking station. They only sell a universal port replicator that connects through a USB3 port. This means I have to keep the laptop in a place where I can open the lid enought to reach the power button.

The old Dell is still attached to the dock and shelf. I'll remove it in a day or two. The external HDD and burner will stay under the shelf but HP will have to stay on top. I wouldrather it go below. I'll have to try it below and see if it opens enough to turn it on.

The HP has enough ports because my Dell monitor (to the right of the shelf) has four USB ports. Two are for the mouse and keyboard, leaving the other two free.

 



David Ashton
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Re: HP or Lenovo
David Ashton   7/14/2014 6:58:13 PM
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@MB "The HP computer came with disks for Win7 and Win8."


You're lucky, you don't usualy get that - are they full install disks?

You sound like me.  I never throw things away - "I'll fix it some day when I ahve time..... "

Measurement.Blues
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Re: HP or Lenovo
Measurement.Blues   7/14/2014 6:52:49 PM
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@David,

The HP computer came with disks for Win7 and Win8. Now that I'm keeping it, I will also make a rescue disk.

I too am tempted to take the XP laptop that the HP is replacing and try Linux. I have two others. One is totally dead. the thid works  but one of the  screen hinges is broken. I read about replacing hinges so I'm tmepted to take the dead one apart and see how it's assembled, then try removing a bracket and replacing ti in the working one.

David Ashton
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Re: HP or Lenovo
David Ashton   7/14/2014 6:37:11 PM
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@MB you have my sympathy.  Crapware is a big problem - I am always careful to look for boxes to uncheck when I am, eg, updating Acrobat reader or Anti-virus programs,  If you don't, before you know it they have installed a new browser and made it your default.

And the other thing is that you don't get a CD/DVD of the OS any more - it comes pre-installed.  So if you end up with some software or a problem that you can't get rid of, you can't just re-install.  Grrrrr...

I just got a reasonable motherboard off a friend who upgrades about once a year.  I am SOOO tempted to try Linux on it - I have wanted to for a long time now..  I think I will build up the machine and then take a couple of days off to install and play around with it.

MeasurementBlues
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Re: HP or Lenovo
MeasurementBlues   7/14/2014 11:35:45 AM
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Then, I installed iTunes and connected my phone. iTunes reported an unknown error. Thinkig it might hav eto do with needed to install the latest iOS, I did the upgrade using iTunes. The result: the upgrade didn't finish. The phone told me to connecto to iTunes but iTunes said to finish the restore first. Caught between a rock and a hard place. The only way out was to set the phone back to its factory settings. That cleared up the problem, but I lost everything on the phone. Actually, I only lost a few photos. By contacts and calendar sync to a gmail account and the restored once I set up the account on the phone. I had to reinstall some apps, but installed fewer than I had before because somere were no longer in use.

What caused the unkown error? A google serach turned up some USB driver issues. Then I realized what happened. I have an LG external CD/DVD burner that had given me problems on my XP box. I unplugged it. that seemed to take take fo things.

I have found that I need to start iTunes before connecting any of the three iPhones and iPad. My daughter's phone resulted in the unknown error if It was connected before iTunes starts. But I was able to back up her phone, my phone, and the iPad.

Next came my wife's Samsung Android phone. I installed Samsung's software and it connected. I was  able  to back up the phone. The Samsung Kies software also lets you sync calendars and contacts to gmail and ti lets you expert contacts as a CSV file that can open in Excel. I did that as well.

Bottom line: you can copy pictures off your phone without software and you can set u[ your phone  to sync to a gmail account. Before doing any more upgrades, I'll manually copy the photos so I have them.

I then copied all of the Apple and Samsung backup flied from the HP hard drive to to external drives.

MeasurementBlues
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Re: HP or Lenovo
MeasurementBlues   7/14/2014 11:35:23 AM
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@David,

Today is the last day to return the HP. I've had some issues, but have resolved them, albeit with too many hours late at night.

The first came fromdownloading the latest version of irfanview, a graphics-viewing program that I've used for years. I went to http://www.irfanview.com/ to download, but the link takes you to cnet. Installing the download from cnet also installed adware. It kept popping up with ads and surveys. A  google search results in telling me to uninstall it, which I did. That problem went away.

Next I downloaded malwarebytes, another progam I've used for years. A scan revealed some monit issues and I selected to quarantine them. That resulted in the complete loss of internet access. Firefox told me that I was using a proxy server that was refusing to let me through. So, I did a system restore to the latest data before installing irfanview. All was well.

 

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Re: windows XP
betajet   7/8/2014 2:21:30 PM
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apummer wrote: ... and one cannot call "Linux" to get support if one has some problem...

You can get support if you purchase GNU/Linux enterprise editions from Red Hat, Suse, or other vendors.  Red Hat has been a $1B+/year company for several years now -- pretty good for a company that sells free software.

As an example of engineering software running well on GNU/Linux, Xilinx has quite good support.  This makes sense, because their software ran on Unix workstations before they adapted it to Windows.  Xilinx deals with the multiple GNU/Linux issue by only officially supporting certain versions from Red Hat or Suse.  If you run Xilinx ISE on other distros it will (mostly) work, but if there are problems you're limited to support you can get from on-line forums.  For example, I run ISE WebPack 12.4 on Ubuntu 11.10, and it mostly works fine.  One thing I haven't gotten working is the FPGA Editor.  If I cared enough to track down the problem I could probably get it to work.

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Re: windows XP
apummer945   7/8/2014 1:53:45 PM
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first of all I did not insulted you, but more details; please show me how would you run Pi-Spice of Cadence Design Systems or any other higher performance microwave or rf simulation software, higher performance mechanical engineering soft ware e.g. Solid Works on Linux. And if you could not do it I will still not call you narrow-minded, but perhaps for something else. On the other hand  I would be happy if these software's would be usable with Linux, but here is little chance for that, because there is no one Linux, but many variation -- sometimes not compatible with each other -- and one can not call "Linux" to get support if has some problem, while – although I am not excited either from Apple or Microsoft's performance – one could cal them and get some kind of support. Of course if somebody would "own" Linux and third party software companies could count on a given specification of the operating system, but in that case Linux would become an other proprietary system, trading it's charm for reliability.

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Re: windows XP
przem   7/8/2014 1:08:45 PM
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?  the only problem with Lynux and similars, that engineering softwares do not work with them
 
Trolling much? You are making a point that some Windows software that won't run on Linux or Apples,
but most engineering and scientific software is either ported or has functional equivalents that will run. To dismiss 'Lynux and similars' this way just smacks of narrowmindedness.


Measurement.Blues
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Re: HP or Lenovo
Measurement.Blues   6/30/2014 6:08:41 PM
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@David,

@MB - I think the HP is the way I'd have gone, but for different reasons.  If you are only using it as a desktop, why not GET a desktop?

I don't have room in my home office for a desktop. I did look at some of those small desktops (HP and Dell), but they only had celeron processors and honestly, I didn't like the mechanical design. Laptop prices are essentially the same as desktops.

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