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Re: Pretty Amazing
goafrit   7/1/2014 12:46:20 PM
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>> And the higher security stuff that also requires voice identification -- and that works even in noisy environments -- is really rather clever. 

Hope it can decipher when there is threat and the voice changes. People seem to speak differently under threat than in normal times

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Re: How secure
Max The Magnificent   7/1/2014 12:25:00 PM
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@LarryM99: The instructor for the hacking training that I took was teaching his 5-year-old daughter to pick locks.

I must admit that I'd love to know how to pick locks -- not that I have much call for it in my day-to-day life, you understand -- but I'm sure it would be a useful skill when the day of the Robot Apocalypse (or the Zombie Apocalypse) dawns.

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Re: How secure
LarryM99   7/1/2014 12:19:39 PM
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The fascinating / scary thing about the hacker world is how the most complex security can be beaten by the simplest things. For example, here's a video of a $160 hardened bike lock being picked using a Bic pen (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LahDQ2ZQ3e0). The instructor for the hacking training that I took was teaching his 5-year-old daughter to pick locks. She was opening 5-tumbler locks at that point.

Computers (including smartphones and tablets) are complex beasts, which makes them all the more vulnerable.

Larry M.

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Re: How secure
Max The Magnificent   7/1/2014 11:51:05 AM
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@LarryM99: Mythbusters did a show where they hacked fingerprint readers with a xeroxed copy of a print.

I remember a short science fiction story from long ago (Asimov perhaps?) about something like this -- someone (turns out to be a good guy showing how th esystem can be broken) kidnapping a rich person and using his fingerprint and iris scan to buy all sorts of goods.

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Re: How secure
LarryM99   7/1/2014 10:10:58 AM
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@Max, say something like that at a hacker's conference and they will take it as a challenge. By the next morning you will have at least half a dozen videos of you saying passwords in your inbox.

This does sound like it is an improvement on early biometric systems, though. Mythbusters did a show where they hacked fingerprint readers with a xeroxed copy of a print.

Larry M.

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Re: How secure
Max The Magnificent   7/1/2014 9:55:41 AM
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@Garcia: I got really scared when I heard how easy an "unbreakable" system can by bypassed by skilled hackers.

My mother-in-law bought us a box of unbreakable glasses as a gift.

We don't have any left...

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Re: Pretty Amazing
Max The Magnificent   7/1/2014 9:54:20 AM
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@betajet: My mother says "all bearded men look alike", so way way way too many false matches.

I will ask the folks at Sensory hwo they would answer your mother's point.

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I forgot to mention
Max The Magnificent   7/1/2014 9:52:50 AM
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I forgot to mention in this column that a simple photo of the person won't work -- the system is also looking for little muscle twitches and eye blinks and suchlike to know that it's looking as a living person.

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Re: How secure
Max The Magnificent   7/1/2014 9:51:14 AM
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@LarryM99: A video of a user saying the password might just do the same here.

Well yes, maybe, but it's a lot harder to get a face-on video of a user saying a password without him/her noticing than is is to watch them type in a PIN.

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Re: How secure
Garcia-Lasheras   7/1/2014 8:32:07 AM
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@Adam-Taylor: "security / cryptography is not broken / cracked but bypassed"

About 10 days ago I assisted to a conference and round-table hosted by Telefonica/Movistar (the biggest Spanish telecom provider) about enterprise-level security in information technologies and this was stated and exemplifed by most of the VIP attendants, including a world-class hacker, the boss of security systems at Telefonica and the Navarra Autonomous Police chief officer.

I got really scared when I heard how easy an "unbreakable" system can by bypassed by skilled hackers.

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