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MeasurementBlues
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Re: Bike maybe not so bad
MeasurementBlues   7/2/2014 12:43:28 PM
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But really, interdependent tuning is not much different that tuning a feedback loop where the output affects the input, which affects the output, and so on.

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Re: Bike maybe not so bad
MeasurementBlues   7/2/2014 12:40:19 PM
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Bill,

 

If I ever pull my 12-speed out of the basement, I'll bring it to you for a tune-up.

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Re: Like tuning a guitar
elizabethsimon   7/2/2014 12:15:33 PM
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I haven't played guitar in years. One of the reasons I gave it up is because I have a hearing loss that made it very difficult for me to tune the high E. I could tell that it was out of tune but couldn't tell if it was sharp or flat. And this was long before the advent of electronic guitar tuning aids....

 

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Bike maybe not so bad
Bill_Jaffa   7/2/2014 11:27:26 AM
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Geez, with all this to-and-fro re guitar tuning, I am starting to not feel so bad about the bike derailleur adjustment process!

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Re: Like tuning a guitar
rich.pell   7/2/2014 10:58:00 AM
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"Should we not learn how to add numbers and be totally dependent on calculators?"

Knowing how to tune a guitar by ear and taking advantage of tools to speed the process are not mutually exclusive.  Do you ever use a calculator?

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Re: Like tuning a guitar
MeasurementBlues   7/2/2014 10:45:37 AM
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OK if you want to talk about cheating with technology, I do use a metronome iPhone app. Even traditional metronomes are technology, just mechanical.

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Re: Like tuning a guitar
MeasurementBlues   7/2/2014 10:43:42 AM
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> "That's cheating!"
> No, it's technology.  :)

Cheating with technology, I say. Use your ears. Should we not learn how to add numbers and be totally dependent on calculators?

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Re: Like tuning a guitar
rich.pell   7/2/2014 10:30:17 AM
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"That's cheating!"

No, it's technology.  :)

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Re: Like tuning a guitar
MeasurementBlues   7/2/2014 10:21:42 AM
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The only disadvantage of one string at a time is that with all strings off, you can do a better job wiping off finger grime.

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Re: Like tuning a guitar
MeasurementBlues   7/2/2014 10:20:18 AM
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@rich.pell

That's cheating! It does the tuning with DSP--even worse. OK, I admit that I use a tuner to tune my acoustic, which is also cheating. I really should learn to tune by ear. Well, I do, by listening to beats. that gets thr strings in tune with each other, but if the first string was sharp or flat, they re all sharp or flat but together.

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