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resistion
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Re: What did you hear?
resistion   7/16/2014 6:48:47 PM
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How would 3d help defects? If redundancy, still need a defect-free die or part.

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Re: What did you hear?
alex_m1   7/16/2014 6:09:27 PM
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Rick, a guy from zvi orbach's company talked about 3d chips as a strong way to fight defects. Self assembly and  Molecular Imprints suffer strong defect rate, but at least they have the resolution. I wonder how well a combination will to solve the defect issue will work cost wise ?

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Re. Item 5 : Heard the one about Snapdragon ?
chipmonk0   7/15/2014 8:26:20 PM
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Is that such a big deal ?

a 2 x 64 bit bus carrying 25 GByte/s for LP DDR ( Dual Data Rate ) means a Clock Rate of 800 MHz, not at all unusual for LP DDR 3, it works even with conventional lossy Packages.

Apple has been using them for the 5s since last Fall, had to shrink Package interconnect pitch to accomodate wider channels, but that's still a conventional PoP package. SK Hynix claims their LP DDR 3 can run at Clock Rates double that but have n't seen a SoC - DRAM module packaged in conventional PoP working at 1.6 GHz yet.

We do special loss - less Packages that clean up the Eye Diagram even at much higher Clock Rates for very high Bandwidth and low Power loss w/o having to drill any TSVs into live chips.

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Key takeaway
resistion   7/11/2014 11:42:13 PM
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"No matter what Intel says, Moore's Law is slowing down," said Bob Johnson, a semiconductor analyst for Gartner. "Only a few high-volume, high-performance apps can justify 20 nm and beyond." He sees problems ahead for logic chips in general. The smartphone market is nearing saturation, ultramobiles are canabalizing PCs, and "logic is running out of gas."

If logic is getting affected, that's a really big problem.

resistion
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Thanks for the summary
resistion   7/11/2014 11:25:10 PM
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Nice crisp summary, for those of us who can't go, perennially.

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What did you hear?
rick merritt   7/11/2014 10:29:27 AM
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There was a ton of activity at the event and many talks I could not get to, so what did I miss?

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