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Bert22306
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Re: Some wrong premises
Bert22306   7/14/2014 9:22:32 PM
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I'd even say that Supervisory Control And Data Acquisition could become the heart and soul of IoT. No?

Definitely, this is has been happening. Many industrial automation products have been migrating from previous special-purpose protocols to Internet Protocol, specifically to help them play in what we now like to call IoT. Which is why I don't see IoT as being anything new. It's been going on for decades, except maybe not so much in homes.

And even there, at home, I've been watching TV and listening to radio almost exclusively over the Internet. Aren't a TV or radio "things"? I'd call them "things." But it's true that many of the applications ballyhooed for IoT don't make a lot of sense.

junko.yoshida
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Re: IoT Devices for Seniors
junko.yoshida   7/14/2014 9:20:31 PM
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@karen, I can't agree with you more. I would love to see interesting IoT scenarios that could have a real impact on the healthcare front. 

AZskibum
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Re: Unreasonable expectations
AZskibum   7/14/2014 9:19:50 PM
I have no doubt that IoT will provide value and improve efficiency in many ways, but not in the ways that, as Junko phrased it, have been "shopped around and recycled for years."

Many of the smart features talked about for home applicances, for example, already exist and don't really require network connectivity to achieve their goals. As someone mentioned, if you left the clothing iron on, it shuts itself off after a short time. Likewise for the coffee maker. Most consumers don't really need to be notified of these events via SMS to their smartphone, nor do most consumers need to have remote control over these events. The list goes on and on -- sprinklers that detect moisture and only turn on when neccessary, motion-activated lights that turn on before you reach the front door and fumble in the dark trying to put the key in the lock, and so on and so on.

None of these applications require connectivity, and any benefit provided by connectivity is arguably minimal -- especially when the cost of connectivity is potentially compromised network security.

Connectivity must enhance the user experience, not simply be included because it is possible to do so.

junko.yoshida
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Re: Just because you don't see it ...
junko.yoshida   7/14/2014 9:18:31 PM
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@Some Guy, Ha, ha, I am glad that my rant is now viewed as now officially belonging to your "Gramma and Smartphone" category.

Actually, you are absolutely right. A lot of times consumers don't see real value of new technology until much later.

But the industry would usually come up with some real use of the technology as time goes by. 

IoT could be one of those.

But as I wrote elsewhere in a separate thread, I think we owe it ourselves to hash out what's valuable and what's not when we formulate a credible pitch for developing deivce-to-device communication for IoT.

 

junko.yoshida
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Re: Don't forget the software
junko.yoshida   7/14/2014 9:09:30 PM
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@Jonathan.Gordon, thank you for your comments. I think it's vitally important for us to vet in advance what's useful and what's not, if we ever have our devices talk to each other.

junko.yoshida
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Re: Get It Right
junko.yoshida   7/14/2014 9:05:44 PM
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@bcarso, thank you for clarifying this for me! Much appreciate it. (I happen to be on vacation this week and i didn't see the comments until just now.)

junko.yoshida
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Re: Why not self washing cars?
junko.yoshida   7/14/2014 9:03:12 PM
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@prabhakar, I chuckled when you wrote that we all need self-washing cars. 

True. In the similar vein, I have my own problems. I love my dish washer, but I hate putting dishes away from my dish washer. I love my washer/dryer, but I hate folding all my clothes after the dry cycle.

But then, damn it, I realize that IoT would not solve any of those fundamental problems!

junko.yoshida
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Re: Unreasonable expectations
junko.yoshida   7/14/2014 8:59:40 PM
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@Pablo, thank you for chiming in. 

You wrote:

I like the M2M and IoT idea of helping manage the power grid, provide services for "smart cities", help manage traffic and monitor noise and pollution.

I agree. I think that's the end game. 

But consumers need clear incentives (from service operators, regulators, etc. ) -- that are attractive and convincing enough, so that they get more willing to install new IoT devices. 

junko.yoshida
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Re: Some wrong premises
junko.yoshida   7/14/2014 8:55:06 PM
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@mhrackin, thanks for welcoming me to the world of curmudgeonlines! 

Seriously, I just wanted to know if anyone out there has a convincing scenario for device-to-device IoTs. I know IoT is a hot topic (and engineers are paid to build it regardless of its usefulness). But I still think all of us  -- builders, sellers and consumers -- want the common goal, understanding what good it brings to all of us.

junko.yoshida
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Re: Some wrong premises
junko.yoshida   7/14/2014 8:48:13 PM
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Agreed, @Bert. I'd even say that Supervisory Control And Data Acquisition could become the heart and soul of IoT. No?


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