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junko.yoshida
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Re: Why not self washing cars?
junko.yoshida   7/15/2014 6:03:23 PM
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@bk11, LOL. Actually, my mother-in-law was doing something similar (although she never owned two dishwashers. )She never put her dishes away from her dishwasher. Her dishwasher tunred into a permanent storage space and she rarely ran the machine!

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Re: Great question!
junko.yoshida   7/15/2014 5:59:15 PM
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@C VanDorne, thanks for your respond. No, I know exactly what you mean. And that's a good concept that builders and designers of IoT should keep in mind. Aftrer all, when we discuss "security" of data, what's often missing is: security in whose point of view?

junko.yoshida
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Re: Don't forget the software
junko.yoshida   7/15/2014 5:56:16 PM
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@Jonathan, oh brother. LoL. Your healthcare service provider might be interested in it, though...ha ha.

Jonathan.Gordon
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Re: Don't forget the software
Jonathan.Gordon   7/15/2014 2:15:31 PM
Wait until your toilet discovers Instagram

betajet
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Re: Don't forget the software
betajet   7/15/2014 1:54:20 PM
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Jonathan wrote: Having my home appliances send me hourly updates would be annoying and useless.

Yep, just what I need.  Hourly tweets from from my toaster, or more often when it's having existential issues: "Beats me!  Who wants toast?" [*]

And wait 'til they discover Facebook.  I had to unfriend my self-cleaning toilet last week because of TMI.

[*] from Red Dwarf.

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Re: Why not self washing cars?
Max The Magnificent   7/15/2014 1:51:56 PM
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@bk11: This one is easy to solve.  remove some cabinets and install another diswasher or two.  Leave the clean dishes in the dishwasher until you're ready to use them, then load the dirty ones in another washer.  When that one gets full of dirty dishes, run it and use another washer for dirty dishes!

Brilliant!!!!!

betajet
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Re: Why not self washing cars?
betajet   7/15/2014 1:48:13 PM
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Already been done -- in 1970!
...Let's talk about your car.  It's screaming "Wash me, please!"  Now, if you're Mr. Average Common Sense, you won't believe me when I tell you that I've got an envelope that'll clean your car while you're driving it home from work.  Well, George, believe me this time, because this one isn't like the Austrian self-sharpening razors.  No, friends, no overheating like the tropical fishes...

The Firesign Theater, Don't Crush that Dwarf, Hand Me the Pliers.

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Re: Why not self washing cars?
bk11   7/15/2014 1:25:25 PM
I love my dish washer, but I hate putting dishes away from my dish washer.

This one is easy to solve.  remove some cabinets and install another diswasher or two.  Leave the clean dishes in the dishwasher until you're ready to use them, then load the dirty ones in another washer.  When that one gets full of dirty dishes, run it and use another washer for dirty dishes!

Doesn't work so well for clothes, though.

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Re: Great question!
C VanDorne   7/15/2014 10:27:37 AM
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I used "sovreignty" over "security" because I think the concept should be elevated to mean more than just securing data from one point to another.  I'm not sure how that would shake out but if IoT doesn't mean more control for me and less control for them ("them being any range of outside interests), then I'm probably not interested, and I would probably be a very reluctant IoT customer.

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Re: Great question!
junko.yoshida   7/15/2014 10:07:34 AM
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Thank you, VanDorne. Good one! Yes, let's advance our conversation. You wrote:   BUT (a Sir Mixolot sized one, if you will) not before we figure out the sovreignty angle. How do you define "sovreignty"?

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