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junko.yoshida
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Re: Why not self washing cars?
junko.yoshida   7/14/2014 9:03:12 PM
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@prabhakar, I chuckled when you wrote that we all need self-washing cars. 

True. In the similar vein, I have my own problems. I love my dish washer, but I hate putting dishes away from my dish washer. I love my washer/dryer, but I hate folding all my clothes after the dry cycle.

But then, damn it, I realize that IoT would not solve any of those fundamental problems!

junko.yoshida
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Re: Unreasonable expectations
junko.yoshida   7/14/2014 8:59:40 PM
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@Pablo, thank you for chiming in. 

You wrote:

I like the M2M and IoT idea of helping manage the power grid, provide services for "smart cities", help manage traffic and monitor noise and pollution.

I agree. I think that's the end game. 

But consumers need clear incentives (from service operators, regulators, etc. ) -- that are attractive and convincing enough, so that they get more willing to install new IoT devices. 

junko.yoshida
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Re: Some wrong premises
junko.yoshida   7/14/2014 8:55:06 PM
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@mhrackin, thanks for welcoming me to the world of curmudgeonlines! 

Seriously, I just wanted to know if anyone out there has a convincing scenario for device-to-device IoTs. I know IoT is a hot topic (and engineers are paid to build it regardless of its usefulness). But I still think all of us  -- builders, sellers and consumers -- want the common goal, understanding what good it brings to all of us.

junko.yoshida
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Re: Some wrong premises
junko.yoshida   7/14/2014 8:48:13 PM
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Agreed, @Bert. I'd even say that Supervisory Control And Data Acquisition could become the heart and soul of IoT. No?


junko.yoshida
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Re: Solution looking for a problem
junko.yoshida   7/14/2014 8:44:08 PM
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@betajet, IDioT is a catchy name. You should trademark it!

Kidding aside, if the infrastructure is installed correctly, your daily data of the blood pressure monitor (sent straight to your doc's office or insurance companies) could solve real problems.

Your doctor's can see the pattern of blood pressure (instead of your forgetting to monior or lying about it to your doc.) and get to the bottom of the probem, for example.

But again, all the stakeholders need to buy into the system and come to an agreement to pull off something like that...

junko.yoshida
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Re: The case for IoT
junko.yoshida   7/14/2014 8:37:51 PM
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@deron19, agreed. I think IoT on the home front might end up to be a hard sell. The real value of IoT may reside in the infrastructure.

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Don't fooled by extremes
y_sasaki   7/14/2014 6:44:30 PM
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Back in mid 1990s when Internet was rising, there were all kind of crazy ideas. I remeber there was a company invented flavor-generating device so food provider can let users feel their product flavor through the Internet. I don't think it is common practice today. There were literally hundreds of unsucessful Internet ideas, many of them are near hoax to gather investment money.

Nevertheless Internet became almost "unthinkable to live without it" today. We can make flight plan change, we can look for hotel, we can get driving instruction to the hotel and list of available restaurants nearby. You can still do that in "old school way" - using voice phone call, paper map and good-old yellowpage, but Internet makes process much quick and easier. I think today's teenagers may not even know how to do that in old school way.

I think IoT would be something like that. Not all IoT scinarios told today might not be practical. Some of them might be near hoax. Still, when appliances gets "smarter" and able to connect each other, we will find out useful application over it, eventually it will became thing of "unthinkable to live without it", even though you can still able to do it in old school.

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Morning Latte
Duane Benson   7/14/2014 5:30:15 PM
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I have my Latte machine connected to a WeMo switch, which is controlled from my Smartphone. When I get up in the morning, I turn off my alarm on my phone and turn on the Latte machin with my phone. By the time I'm showered and downstairs, my latte is waiting for me. (I wrote about it here)

I don't have it automatically triggered by my Alarm. I'm not sure if that's possible, but I should look into that.

This particular WeMo switch also has energy monitoring, so after leaving home, I can check to make sure I turned it off. I might be able to use a service like Dweet.io to have the Latte machine automatically turned off when I leave my house.

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IoT Devices for Seniors
kfield   7/14/2014 4:24:03 PM
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I think we're forgetting about a demographic that could benefit from some of the IoT devices that may seem silly or overkill to us: Seniors. Many more people are living longer, but often with restricted mobility and a gradual loss of independence. Having experienced this situation first hand in my family, this is a demographic for which a smart refrigerator may actually make sense. I'd love to see more development in home health care devices that can have a dramatic impact on the quality of life of seniors.

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Re: Some wrong premises
antedeluvian   7/14/2014 4:05:01 PM
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tb100

Have you ever tried to program one of those sprinkler timer systems? Maybe it is easy for you, but they are pretty incomprehensible to me.

I'd rather get on my computer, click on a picture of my yard and tell it how often it should water the different zones

No kidding! I have a 6 zone device. each zone is controlled by a slider with about 10 positions. 8 of the positions determines on time. Top and bottom turn the valve on or off. Strikes me as ratehr inelegant, gibven the is micro controlled and the time/date/watering days can all be entered.

But it is much worse. It loses a day. No it is not that it is permanently using a leap year calendar, it loses a day on leap years as well. The unit is diabled for 7-8 months a year (up here in Canada), so I am unsure as tho when the days gets lost. I was going to submit this to "Made by Monkeys"

 

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